News: Dorion and Dubas talking Potential Trade

[Deku]

Nylander’s contract is fair and could look really good if the cap is much higher in the later years of it. I don’t think the Leafs keeping him was the best use of their cap space right now though

 

[therealkoho]

If they plan on buying him out they can’t wait that long. The buyout period ends before Marleau’s bonus gets paid.

Leafs retain 40% on Marleau, they rise to meet cap floor and it only cost the Sens somewhere in the neighbourhood of 2m real dollars

 

[ottomaddox]

Lol....Toronto structured that deal the way they did because it's the only way in a cap system that the can use their wealth as a tool. They don't care about paying actual cash up front, they did it because now Nylander's actual salary owed per year is sub 5 million. That makes that contract attractive to budget teams which adds value in a future trade.

I'm looking at his capfriendly profile. They lay it out as 6.962 million for the next 5 seasons. His cap hit is 6.962 for the next 5 seasons.

Don't kid yourself. A lot of people in the organization care about cash up front. They just don't burn money like you think.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I'm sure the idea would be for Ottawa to buy him out. Then he would sign for cheap in San Jose

am i wrong or buying him out is impossible

 

[therealkoho]

3-Way Trade:

To San Jose: Patrick Marleau, 32nd overall, 44th overall
To Toronto: Future considerations
To Ottawa: Kasperi Kapanen or Andreas Johnsson

Who says no?

Kyle Dubas is my best guess

 

[therealkoho]

Zaitsev and Johansson for Condon ?

who pray tell is Johansson

 

[lukeleim]

Patrick Marleau, Kasperi Kapanen and Garret Sparks for Mike Condon, Jean-Gabriel Pageau and Senators' third-round draft pick of 2019.

 

[Sypher04]

am i wrong or buying him out is impossible

Without his permission probably, but it's what he would want, so I doubt it'd be a problem

 

[Duncstar]

Patrick Marleau, Kasperi Kapanen and Garret Sparks for Mike Condon, Jean-Gabriel Pageau and Senators' third-round draft pick of 2019.

Mmmmmmmmmmm
No. Marleau + Kappy for us to buyout is about fair, and JGP will cost you a 2020 1st min. Cause Sens fans and Dorion love him.

 

[Legion34]

My guess is marleau for smith and each buyout.

Smith would be 1.083 I think for 4 years. Would save Ottawa about 500 k.

Last resort for to

 

[Liferleafer]

I'm looking at his capfriendly profile. They lay it out as 6.962 million for the next 5 seasons. His cap hit is 6.962 for the next 5 seasons.

Don't kid yourself. A lot of people in the organization care about cash up front. They just don't burn money like you think.

Yes, his cap is 6.962...but some teams concern themselves with actual cash as well, so after his bonus is paid on July 1st, his actual salary is not 6.962.

 

[senators101]

How about more like Zaitsev, Marleau 50% retained for Ceci and late 2nd.

How about more like giving up your 1st just to get rid of Marleau?

 

[CartographerNo611]

Fist time opposing GMs somehow lose a trade.

 

[PemIceKing]

How about more like giving up your 1st just to get rid of Marleau?

To sign our stars ok

 

[danielpalfredsson]

My guess would be that the Sens were in on Marleau but Melnyk wouldn't go for it. There would be over 4 million owed with a buyout. Granted, it would be against a 6.25M cap hit, but the Senators probably have cheaper avenues to hit the floor.

The smart thing to do would be to move out a 4M type player to make the room for Marleau's buyout, but I think Melnyk wouldn't go for that either because he wants the team to "compete" for a playoff spot. Dorion has openly said, that's the stage the team is expected to be at, competing for a playoff spot. I think it is delusional.

 

[Liferleafer]

How about more like giving up your 1st just to get rid of Marleau?

And gaining a full 6.25 in cap space....ya.

 

[Clayonator]

Kadri for Tierney

 

[93gilmour93]

Kadri for Tierney

Lol

 

[Vitto79]

Ottawa does seem like a fit Zaitsev but do they have a Dman that’s cheaper to deal TO?

 

[Langdon Alger]

And gaining a full 6.25 in cap space....ya.

That’s good, but it’s still a steep price to pay.

 

[Liferleafer]

That’s good, but it’s still a steep price to pay.

Of course...it is what it is, it had to be done.

 

[senators101]

And gaining a full 6.25 in cap space....ya.

I'm not saying you didn't need to trade Marleau. I'm saying Leafs fans severely underestimated how much they'd have to give up to get rid of Marleau.

 

[Liferleafer]

I'm not saying you didn't need to trade Marleau. I'm saying Leafs fans severely underestimated how much they'd have to give up to get rid of Marleau.

Some...some fans.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Ottawa does seem like a fit Zaitsev but do they have a Dman that’s cheaper to deal TO?

Ottawa should not be trading for Zaitsev.

 

[senators101]

Some...some fans.

Including the person I quoted who wanted a 2nd rounder from Ottawa for the privilege of taking Zaitsev and Marleau.... Try to keep up.