Management Don Sweeney III

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remer

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We were spoiled when it came to good trades for a while there. Payback is a ****** I guess...

Horton, Campbell for Wideman and Bitz

Tomas Kaberle trade.

Dennis Seidenberg trade

Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton for Phil Kessel

Rich Peverley for Stuart and Wheeler (It took Wheeler a while to reach the level he is at now while Peverley was a key peice in our cup run and subsequent finals run a couple years later)

Johnny Boychuk for Matt Hendricks (Steal of the Century here, I wish Sweeney would get his act together and use all this scouting expertise he has to find some decent NHLers that are buried on another team's roster like Chiarelli did on this one).

I would agree.
Can't say Sweeney has done very well so far.
 

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You don't think goaltending is their biggest issue? Hutchinson Hellebuyck Pavelec??? Hellebuyck is promising but still very young...but that is certainly their biggest issue...

Trouba would address their biggest need but sadly for Chevy he's asking out.


Anyways goalies don't bring back a 22y top pairing RD+ one of the better goalie prospects.
 
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I'm willing to put it out there that I think we are looking a gift horse in the mouth saying we wouldn't include Carlo in a deal for Trouba. Obviously the other pieces that would need to be added are particularly relevant, but this narrative that Carlo can't be moved in the deal is gaining steam here and I think it's wrong. I think we are overrating 8 games. Don't get me wrong I think he's been terrific, but I can't help but think we will look back in a year or two, or even sooner, and chuckle about this.

I offer Carlo and Spooner and see if that gets it done.

I applaud your courage, and tend to agree with you. The trajectory in the eyes of some fans has been, likely, unrealistically steep for Carlo.
 

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This is an example of what I mean - 8 games under his belt and suddenly he's top 4 playoff ready - borderline ridiculous to assume as much.

What is with this huge influx of people that insist on letting the rest of the board know "don't get too excited" about Carlo. He's playing great...people see great things and great potential. If you have that top 4 going into the PO's, yeah I feel pretty good about it.

I'm not saying I think Carlo is a future HOF'er or All-star or whatever...no one can possibly know or assume these things. But, that top 4 is certainly not terrible looking. Pretty sure that's all people are getting at.

You seem to be inferring things about Carlo that no one said. Given how he's played...uhh yeah, he's playing top 4 in the playoffs. And given what we've seen, uhh yeah I feel okay about it.
 

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What is with this huge influx of people that insist on letting the rest of the board know "don't get too excited" about Carlo. He's playing great...people see great things and great potential. If you have that top 4 going into the PO's, yeah I feel pretty good about it.

I'm not saying I think Carlo is a future HOF'er or All-star or whatever...no one can possibly know or assume these things. But, that top 4 is certainly not terrible looking. Pretty sure that's all people are getting at.

You seem to be inferring things about Carlo that no one said. Given how he's played...uhh yeah, he's playing top 4 in the playoffs. And given what we've seen, uhh yeah I feel okay about it.

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This is an example of what I mean - 8 games under his belt and suddenly he's top 4 playoff ready - borderline ridiculous to assume as much.

No it isn't. When did people know that Krug was ready for top four minutes?

Wait, he's already playing top two minutes on a .500 team. Now reduce that time down, give him the second line competition and continue to mentor him along.

Trouba takes the pressure off Chara, Krug and Carlo instantly, further reduces Miller and Liles' ice time and greatly improves the transition game for the Bruins.

I'm going on his play over the last year and saying that he makes a great #4 in today's NHL. If they stand pat, he will burn out before Chara does and both will collapse by March.
 

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No it isn't. When did people know that Krug was ready for top four minutes?

Wait, he's already playing top two minutes on a .500 team. Now reduce that time down, give him the second line competition and continue to mentor him along.

Trouba takes the pressure off Chara, Krug and Carlo instantly, further reduces Miller and Liles' ice time and greatly improves the transition game for the Bruins.

I'm going on his play over the last year and saying that he makes a great #4 in today's NHL. If they stand pat, he will burn out before Chara does and both will collapse by March.

Krug got 44 pts yes But I think people really over value him.He is sooo soft not funny.Not top 4 to me.PPspecialist yes. But hey it got him 5 plus million so guess others know better.I cringe seeing him in own end.
 

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My point to all the comments I have posted in the last 2 pages are these,

1) Trouba does not make us a cup contender until the next wave of youth is ready to come in which may be in 4 to 5 years... by that point Trouba is already done with a 2nd contract (extension of contract) and looking at signing his 3rd contract and being a UFA. We do not need him now. We are not close to winning at all.. So why give so much for him (Youth especially) when we are 4 to 5 years away from being a contender?

2) Trouba is not a number 1, nor a number 2, he is probably a number 3... You are probably getting back a less offensive player than Hamilton was and a little better defensive player than Hamilton was.. So would you pay Zboril Debrusk and a 1st for comparable Dougie?? That's 3 Number 1's??

3) This team has dead weight in salaries. What I mean is all their top heavy salaries are players in their 30's or entering their 30's. By the end of this year they will be Krejci 31, Backes 33, Chara 40, Bergeron 32, Marchand 29, Rask 30... I am not sure other than Vancouver there is another team that has almost 40 million dollars of salaries to players almost 30 and over. That is insane to where the NHL is heading in the next few years and we again are not understanding the new trend and we are still hoping we make the playoffs so a few guys don't lose their jobs... It's time to move some of these contracts for younger players. We are not winning anytime soon, time to change the direction of this team.
 

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I was just **** talking to myself that we were gonna score short handed

Dude I friggan love Dominic Moore, finally a good signing by Sweeney (ok, Backes was great too, so far anyways) he just plays with that intensity and smahts every shift
 

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No it isn't. When did people know that Krug was ready for top four minutes?

You can rest assured it was longer than an 8 game cup of coffee. It's unrealistic, and it's unfair to the kid.

Ask yourself the real reason why you feel obligated to make him the back-end savior?

It's the most difficult position in the world to develop in - and sure, there are exceptions - and no, Torey Krug is not one, but sure, there are. Brandon Carlo is not going to be an exception.
 

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You can rest assured it was longer than an 8 game cup of coffee. It's unrealistic, and it's unfair to the kid.

Ask yourself the real reason why you feel obligated to make him the back-end savior?

It's the most difficult position in the world to develop in - and sure, there are exceptions - and no, Torey Krug is not one, but sure, there are. Brandon Carlo is not going to be an exception.

Carlo isn't the back-end savior. He's the #4. He's the Boychuk 2.0. I have posted him as the #4 about five times in this thread and have Trouba as the #1 with Krug.
 
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