Does Svechnikov remind anyone else of Erik Cole

[Big Daddy Cane]

I expected a 10+ point bump in production, but Svechnikov looks like he's going to destroy that. He's changed the dynamic of the PP significantly, despite being a LHS not able to one-time pucks from that half-wall. Just a great blend of size and skill, both scoring and playmaking.

The enormity of that lottery win should not go unnoticed. He was exactly what the franchise needed when they needed it. There's an aspect of team building that you can't plan for: a team has to be lucky at the right time. For a team that only had a supporting cast, but lacked the lead actor up front not too long ago, it's wild to think that they have 4 with that ability/potential.

 

[DougieSmash]

he reminds me of char

 

[tarheelhockey]

he reminds me of char

Let's not get carried away here

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

he reminds me of char

A less impactful to the franchise Chad Larose

 

[the halleJOKEL]

its going to be a good game, i'm playing with svech

 

[Svechhammer]

Svech is not anything close to Lindros, IMO.

We're comparing a 6'4" 240lb center who fought constantly, scored primarily through bulldozing his way to the crease, and would have led the league in hits if they had been tracking them...
To a 6'2" 187lb winger who lost his only career fight, is an elite sniper, and is a heavy but not overwhelming physical presence.

Svech isn't quite as physical as a prime Tuomo Ruutu. He's nowhere near Lindros. I wouldn't put that comparison out there for the world to see.

See I disagree a little here.

Svech looks like what Lindros would need to be in the NHL in 2019. The league has moved from physical to agile where speed beats size time and time again. A player like Svech is about as physical as you're going to see in this day and age, but when he throws his weight, he makes his hits count. For their respective time and place, and respective to the other people on the ice and the way the game is played, I think both have a similar physical impact while being able to collect points.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

See I disagree a little here.

Svech looks like what Lindros would need to be in the NHL in 2019. The league has moved from physical to agile where speed beats size time and time again. A player like Svech is about as physical as you're going to see in this day and age, but when he throws his weight, he makes his hits count. For their respective time and place, and respective to the other people on the ice and the way the game is played, I think both have a similar physical impact while being able to collect points.

i think you could pluck 90s lindros and slap him into todays game and he would be a tom wilson type physical influence who put up 90+ points every season. lindros is on a tier by himself with the package of skill, size, and speed he brought from the first day he was in the league

 

[MinJaBen]

See I disagree a little here.

Svech looks like what Lindros would need to be in the NHL in 2019. The league has moved from physical to agile where speed beats size time and time again. A player like Svech is about as physical as you're going to see in this day and age, but when he throws his weight, he makes his hits count. For their respective time and place, and respective to the other people on the ice and the way the game is played, I think both have a similar physical impact while being able to collect points.

If Svech becomes Lindros (minus the concussion problems) we should count ourselves extremely lucky. He's the only guy I've ever seen like him. That said, I think Svech becoming Svech is going to be great.

 

[Tryamw]

Let's not get carried away here

He doesn't have as Dreamy a smile though.

 

[tarheelhockey]

See I disagree a little here.

Svech looks like what Lindros would need to be in the NHL in 2019. The league has moved from physical to agile where speed beats size time and time again. A player like Svech is about as physical as you're going to see in this day and age, but when he throws his weight, he makes his hits count. For their respective time and place, and respective to the other people on the ice and the way the game is played, I think both have a similar physical impact while being able to collect points.

But Lindros was also fast. He wasn’t some big lug who just coasted around... he was the guy who led line rushes. Was he as fast as McDavid, no, but he was as fast as Svech and also nearly 50 pounds heavier.

The biggest difference between them is Svech’s shot, but again that’s not because Lindros didn’t have a good shot.

 

[Svechhammer]

I expected a 10+ point bump in production, but Svechnikov looks like he's going to destroy that. He's changed the dynamic of the PP significantly, despite being a LHS not able to one-time pucks from that half-wall. Just a great blend of size and skill, both scoring and playmaking.

The enormity of that lottery win should not go unnoticed. He was exactly what the franchise needed when they needed it. There's an aspect of team building that you can't plan for: a team has to be lucky at the right time. For a team that only had a supporting cast, but lacked the lead actor up front not too long ago, it's wild to think that they have 4 with that ability/potential.

I will forever say that the fact that Dundon completed the purchase of this team only a few months prior for about double what Forbes was valuing the franchsie at the time is not coincidental in the lottery win.

 

[Lempo]

I will forever say that the fact that Dundon completed the purchase of this team only a few months prior for about double what Forbes was valuing the franchsie at the time is not coincidental in the lottery win.

You suspect there is funny business aloof when those men go to the other room to fondle their balls?

 

[bleedgreen]

I'm not sure how anybody can watch Svech and not see Hossa. Size, mobility, hands, shot, physicality ... it's all virtually identical.

Skating is still the biggest difference, and young Hossa was a definitely more dangly than Svech. Virtually identical is a little rough but they play they same position and work both ways for sure. I actually think Svech has a more natural and heavier release.

 

[Svechhammer]

You suspect there is funny business aloof when those men go to the other room to fondle their balls?

Yes with all those thousands of possibilities that definitely cannot be adjusted after the fact to make it appear legitimate. Definitely can't be altered, noooooo sir

 

[Roboturner913]

mostly just reminds me of Drayson Bowman, because of that wrist shot. FWIW

 

[Unsustainable]

mostly just reminds me of Drayson Bowman, because of that wrist shot. FWIW

his stick work screams Zach Boychuk

 

[bleedgreen]

But Lindros was also fast. He wasn’t some big lug who just coasted around... he was the guy who led line rushes. Was he as fast as McDavid, no, but he was as fast as Svech and also nearly 50 pounds heavier.

The biggest difference between them is Svech’s shot, but again that’s not because Lindros didn’t have a good shot.

I’d say he was faster than Svech without question imo. At least relative to the time. Svech isn’t fast in open ice. Like at all. It’s actually surprising. Lindros was the quickest monster the game had seen to that point. I never liked the dude but he deserves the respect.

Based on the comparison’s I’m seeing here I get the feeling some people never actually watched some of these older guys play. Not in their primes anyways.

 

[Stickpucker]

Svech reminds me a bit of John Leclair with less speed but better playmaking in a totally different era.

 

[Unsustainable]

He’s feisty, reminds me of Darius Kasparaitis

 

[Sens1Canes2]

i think you could pluck 90s lindros and slap him into todays game and he would be a tom wilson type physical influence who put up 90+ points every season. lindros is on a tier by himself with the package of skill, size, and speed he brought from the first day he was in the league

Yeah. Lindros was a package of size (that he 100% used) and skill that has yet to be duplicated since. He was so dominant. A joy to watch.

 

[DaveG]

yep I mean relatively speaking Svech is a hair above league average in terms of speed, he would have been a lot faster back in the 90s, part of that is how well you have to skate to be an effective dman anymore. But yeah he doesn't blow buy guys with pure speed, he beats them by just being flat out impossible to muscle out of position when he gets it on someone. And again, he reminds me of Hossa in that regard.

Lindros as Tarheel said wasn't just big and impossible to get the puck off of, he was FAST. It's one of the big reasons that Kasparaitis hit was such a shock when it happened. The way Kasparaitis got over to lay that hit on Big E just didn't happen to Big E without the guy trying to nail him taking the worst of it.

 

[tarheelhockey]

You suspect there is funny business aloof when those men go to the other room to fondle their balls?

HEY. No dirty talk in this thread.

young Hossa was a definitely more dangly than Svech.

Yeah. Lindros was a package of size (that he 100% used)

 

[bleedgreen]

yep I mean relatively speaking Svech is a hair above league average in terms of speed, he would have been a lot faster back in the 90s, part of that is how well you have to skate to be an effective dman anymore. But yeah he doesn't blow buy guys with pure speed, he beats them by just being flat out impossible to muscle out of position when he gets it on someone. And again, he reminds me of Hossa in that regard.

Lindros as Tarheel said wasn't just big and impossible to get the puck off of, he was FAST. It's one of the big reasons that Kasparaitis hit was such a shock when it happened. The way Kasparaitis got over to lay that hit on Big E just didn't happen to Big E without the guy trying to nail him taking the worst of it.

Kaspar was a vicious man. After the game Leclair swore vengeance and they were immediately playing again. First play of the next game Kaspar knocked Leclair out of the game with basically the same hit. Classic.

Watching Svech from a near stand still taking his first few strides over our blue line is borderline painful. Watching Svech attack wide once he has the momentum built up is a joy. On the cycle he looks faster than most guys somehow. He's a bowling ball arcing its way back to the pins. No sharp turns but don't get in its way. He relishes contact too, which is awesome.

 

[Borsig]

The reason I said lindros is because the way he uses his size. He powers through people, he has that juggernaut type speed, not the acceleration.


Say what you want, lindros was the first "power forward" forechecking playmaker the nhl saw.

Svech looks a lot like him in that role.

I think Svech has a much better shot than lindros did. Goalies are harder to beat these days. Svech has a better shot.

He still reminds me of lindros with the wrecking ball playmaker thing.

 

[SvechneJerk]

Kaspar was a vicious man. After the game Leclair swore vengeance and they were immediately playing again. First play of the next game Kaspar knocked Leclair out of the game with basically the same hit. Classic.

Watching Svech from a near stand still taking his first few strides over our blue line is borderline painful. Watching Svech attack wide once he has the momentum built up is a joy. On the cycle he looks faster than most guys somehow. He's a bowling ball arcing its way back to the pins. No sharp turns but don't get in its way. He relishes contact too, which is awesome.

Also had to add more Kasparaitis, just because.
Enjoy.