Does Mackinnon become the best hockey player in the world if he wins Stanley Cup this year

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  1. Kresnik Registered User

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    Perhaps by some because of intangibles like leadership and be good when it matters etc, but Mcdavid will still be regarded as the most talented player in the world I think.
     
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    Absolutely.

    If every other player on the Avalanche is injured.
     
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    Terrible comparison. Nobody in their right mind argued Jagr over Lemieux and Mac+Mc doesn't play on the same team. If anything Draisaitl vs McDavid is the real Forsberg vs Sakic or Malkin vs Crosby. Draisaitl so far played better in the playoffs and outdo McDavid at times in the regular season(you know similiar to how there is a case for Malkin being a better playoff performer as well as having a higher peak than Crosby).

    OT: No? Also id argue Kucherov(who you know have arguably the highest regular season peak of any player currently in the league) had a Smythe worthy cup win just last year, and looks like he could repeat this year have a stronger case.
     
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    He'd be in the conversation without it being a joke or homerish.
     
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    the first paragraph about teams is irrelevant to my point, nor did I compare jagr to Lemieux. At different times, one of them was typically the best forward in the league when Sakic/Forsberg were active. But those players had some shorter stretches where they looked like the best players in the world, again at different times, and we’re notoriously good in the playoffs which helped elevate their standing in history
     
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    Not better than Mcdavid its clear. But top 4 for sure.
     
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    No, he’s got to play more against Canadian team. Bro told me an interesting stat regarding the north division: Matthews has 1.0 goals per game vs the Sens in his career, while having 3 goals in 12 games vs Tampa.

    Meaning - you shouldn’t take the point/goals totals this year to heavily in account, but people will.
     
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    This year you can honestly throw stats out the window when comparing across divisions. They basically played in entirely different Leagues.
     
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    another pointless game for Mack
     
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    Wakey wakey Big Mac
     
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    MacKinnon has been pointless in Game 3, 4 and 5

    time's almost up on the Avs season
     
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    MacKinnon is the most overrated playoff player. He racks up points in blow out games when the game is out of reach. But is a complete no show when it matters

    2 points in his 7 career game 6s or 7s. 1 point this playoffs when the game within 2 goals or less.

    Hes a major reason his team never makes it out of round 2 and will get bounced again

    Fine looking player when his team does all the heavy lifting for him. Houdini when needed.
     
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    No.
     
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    Gotta love hot takes.
     
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    I’ve been saying this for a long time and everyone always freaks out (especially this year). He disappears when the pressure is on and the games matter the most. On top of it he looks and has the body language of a sore loser. First guy off the ice after game 4 in Vegas.

    So not only does he not lead with his play, you can tell he’s a downer in the locker room when things go bad. Pathetic flopper/crybaby to the refs too
     
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    He's been ice cold last two games when they've needed him.

    So. He's better than mcdavid because he wins 1 series?
     
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    Mack is notorious for disappearing in game 6's and 7's. He lights up teams in blowout games but disappears in the big ones. His team is a heavy favorite and he is currently going into ghost mode yet again and may be about to choke yet another 2nd round away.
     
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    They're playing Vegas, not sure how that's a choke. They're tied for the President's Trophy, this series was never going to be easy. Vegas/Colorado is a 50/50 series.

    They've made the 2nd round 3 years in a row, I know it's disappointing if they don't advance to the 3rd round but there are like 25 teams in the league who would do anything to make the 2nd round 3 years in a row. It's the Stanley Cup playoffs, it's not easy.
     
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    up 2-0.. vegas came off a tough 7 game series. Avs had a nice rest. What was the excuse the past years the Avs choked their 2nd rounds away? Why does he disappear in all the big games?
     
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    Excuse last year was clearly injuries. You talk like the series is over, it's not over until a team wins 4 games. What was that stat where the team that went 7 games has won every series against the team that swept the series before?

    Let's be honest here, Colorado/Vegas could've been a Stanley Cup finals, whoever wins this series basically has a bye to the finals.
     
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    true. They could win the next 2 and come back.. But based on their track record and Mackinnon's performances in his past 7 game 6/7's we would need to see something really out of the ordinary happen. Maybe Grubauer gets hot again and steals 2.
     
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    He's got to show up in games 6 & 7.

    Alot of pressure on him right now.
     
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    Mac is not good in the playoffs, he may get out of the 2nd round one day bit it will be because of his teammates not him.

    He's like Stamkos...just doesn't have another gear
     
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    Can this board quit declaring him the best player in the world after a hot 5 games
     
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    Lol now everyone is saying Mackinnon is not good in playoffs.
     
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