Does Kucherov become the best hockey player in the world if he wins Stanley Cup this year?

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  1. Copenhagen91 Registered User

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    Do you know anything about hockey?
     
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    I was going to say the same thing lol. Pens finished 4th in the league in 10/11 and 11/12. Crosby played a total of 63/164 games. Guess Crosby wasn't anywhere close to the best player at that time.
     
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    That was probably too big exageration when i said that kucherov's game not contain skill, maybe he even better overall, ya v dushe ne ebu, i just meant that point are clearly better with the puck, more slick and nice to watch
     
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    The fact he took place in this LTIR crap says absolutely not.
     
  5. Hideo Kojima COVID CUP CHAMPIONS!

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    No. But this is a pretty elaborate jinx thread.

    Could instead call him one of the most clutchest playoff performers of the last decade though. I don't think too many people will get triggered by that sentiment. The numbers back up the claim to some degree.

    And while I'm all for the ideology that numbers aren't everything about a player... trust me, Kucherov is better than any numbers you're ever going to see.
     
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    The fact this has so many likes is hilarious.
     
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    Why? It's hard to argue, that Kucherov has been much better in playoffs, where the real hockey starts, than McDavid.
     
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    McDavid is over a ppg on a far worse team...And McDavid's made the playoffs, what, twice? C'mon now.
     
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    Is this not an argument against Wayne Gretzky too?

    I think you're creating false equivalency between the calibre of the team and player. Sounds like you're trying to argue he's not the best player, because he's not the most valuable player. Those two are correlated but not causal. This is why we have both the Lester B and the Hart.
     
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    Imagine being so dumb at knowing hockey you actually think mcdavid isn’t the best player by far in the world.

    Anyone that knows and watches hockey knows mcdavid isn’t only in a tier of his own in hockey - he’s #1 at being better than the second best player in all four of the major North American sports.
     
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    No the person doesn’t.

    imagine thinking someone who has won just a single individual trophy in 8 years in the nhl is best player on world - and better than a guy winning mvps easily.

    Op is either a troll or should be banned from talking hockey ever again
     
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    No. If I had to rank the players on Tampa, he'd be behind Hedman. And I don't think Hedman is the best player in the world either.
     
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    Russian poster has a blatant Russian bias where Russian players are the bestest ever.
     
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    True and Hedman is behind Vasi if we are talking about all positions. If we are talking about the best forwards focusing mainly on impact in the playoffs I'd probably take Point before Kuch even though it's close. Kuch is a monster on the powerplay but Point is more impactful on 5on5 and he just has the clutch gene. Then again the powerplay has been a major piece in this year's run so maybe that would flip it to Kucherov.

    Would be cool to see how McDavid would fare in Point's position in Tampa.
     
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    Exactly and a 2nd SC isn’t going to make him the best player in the world, TB is clearly stacked and has depth as well.

    Kuching is a great player but honestly in the last 3 years and even going into next year at any time for a single season there would have been easily 5 guys I would take over him for a hypothetical single season.
     
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    Man, the difference between Kucherov's fans and McDavid's fans is the latter invent reasons, why McDavid isn't as good as Kucherov in playoffs, and the former just say obvious facts.
     
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    Do you not watch NHL hockey? Regardless of any team achievements McDavid is clearly the best player in the game.

    Pretty straight forward and obvious quite frankly.
     
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    I like both players about the same, but to suggest Kucherov is a better player than McDavid because of cherry picked data is disingenuous. Sorry, that's all there is to say about it.
     
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    It's not 4 games, it's 17. "Terrible teams blabla". I could just as easily say that he plays with another top 5 player in the world on a regular basis and get spoonfed tons of icetime, don't have to share pp-time etc.
     
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    How about actual results? Higher regular season peak, higher playoff peak. Anyway I don't agree but that's not cherry picking.
     
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    I was gonna say "no" but others beat me too it.

    so hell no.
     
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    Probably not even top 5.
     
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    TB has a $99M playoff roster in a $81.5M cap league. Stanley Cup is tainted if TB wins it.
     
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    What's the deal with the absolute obsession to say that any player is better than McDavid?

    I really don't get it. McDavid's obviously the best player in hockey.
     
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    McDavid is in a tier of his own in the regular season. But the OP said best hockey player not best regular season hockey player.
     
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