Speculation: Does Green last the season?

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Apparently everyone forgot that Green double shifts Beagle/Sutter to close out games
He also gives young kids creativity to succeed, just look up the development of the kids, not to mention he stated 1 million times that he wants to never take the creativity away from a player.

He’s a new school coach, he’s a perfect fit.

Just look at guys like Hitchcock and tippett, It’s a completely different style of coaching, we’re lucky.

Not to mention look at Nils, Giving him an opportunity on the top six immediately
 

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has there ever been a coach of any team, no matter how good or successful or with how many jack adams trophies and stanley cup rings that his fanbase didn't crap all over and think they could do a better job?

that said, i have a lot of complaints with trav.
 

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The Canucks owners are crying poverty, which is supposedly the reason Green hasn't been signed yet. But they assure everyone he eventually will be.

The problem for them, is that if the Canucks were to get off to a white hot start and look like they might finish first or second in the North Division then the price would go up significantly. Green and his agent are apparently looking for something in the $3m a season range. That's a big step up from what he was earning, but probably 'fair' considering the contracts for other coaches around the league.

But given how Jimbo dealt with contract 'negotiations' for Tanev, Tofoli and Stecher (there really weren't any), there's a risk they could wait too long on Green.
No sound mind will give Green a 3M AAV contract for 3~5 years. Yes, Green has 2 rounds of playoff under his belt. However, They won with a COVID-19 break. Don't forget Canucks were trending out of playoff pic at that time.
 

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I think Travis Green is a perfect coach for the journey that the Canucks have had the past few years, to create a solid foundation for the young players.

Will he be the coach that can bring us to glory? Perhaps. But I like that he is surrounding himself with people that fills in the space that he lacks.

Bringing back Newell Brown and Ian Clark has helped tremendously. Maybe next is a PK specialist assistant coach?

It's a team based coaching and I for one loves that a BC born coach wants to win the cup for BC badly.
 

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He's a good players coach but I've never liked his system. I think a solid system could be getting a lot more of this teams personnel than what we currently are. Don't think he's in the same class as leading coaches like AV and Trotz.
Why aren't trotz & av on this list ?
 

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So, yes, regular season coaching success is often defined by team performance (especially improvement) which the Nucks aren’t expected to excel this season.

If anything, I looked at how Green coached in the bubble playoffs and thought he more than silenced the critics.
 

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He also gives young kids creativity to succeed, just look up the development of the kids, not to mention he stated 1 million times that he wants to never take the creativity away from a player.

He’s a new school coach, he’s a perfect fit.

Just look at guys like Hitchcock and tippett, It’s a completely different style of coaching, we’re lucky.

Not to mention look at Nils, Giving him an opportunity on the top six immediately
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A "new school coach" in a season with limited practice time, decides to use some of that time for a "bag skate"! Very progressive!
 
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hookshott

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Really basing a coach by a bag skate?
Here is something shocking, you can do old-school stuff from time to time and be considered a new school coach.
Have you ever coached a team?? Wasting practice time for what is basically a fitness drill, is not a good use of ice time. Would be much more useful spending this time on skill development or team play systems. Fitness can and should be developed off the ice.
 
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Have you ever coached a team?? Wasting practice time for what is basically a fitness drill, is not a good use of ice time. Would be much more useful spending this time on skill development or team play systems. Fitness can and should be developed off the ice.
the point is saying a coach can't be considered new school because they bag skate is such a binary way of looking at things
 

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Coaches are never liked at the time by the fans. It’s only after they leave the are more appreciated. Coaches are also judged on the teams success. Everyone loves AV. Everyone hates TG. The reason is because of team success. 98% of the opinions have never coached, don’t know a single thing about a controlled breakout or sealing off a wall. Take it with a grain of salt.
 
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hookshott

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the point is saying a coach can't be considered new school because they bag skate is such a binary way of looking at things
Perhaps, but really, what is the goal of doing a "bag skate" with professional athletes who are expected to come to camp in shape...and most do? There are obvious goals when working on improving some individual skills or ensuring the power play is functioning in a logical manner. Improvement in both of these areas, for example, can actually lead to winning games.....a "bag skate", not so much!
 

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Coaches are never liked at the time by the fans. It’s only after they leave the are more appreciated. Coaches are also judged on the teams success. Everyone loves AV. Everyone hates TG. The reason is because of team success. 98% of the opinions have never coached, don’t know a single thing about a controlled breakout or sealing off a wall. Take it with a grain of salt.

That's really neat because you seem to have so many incredibly insightful takes on pretty much every player on our team, all of them super negative.

Can you direct me to your Wikipedia page so I can check out your stats from when you played in the NHL?
 

Johnny Canucker

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That's really neat because you seem to have so many incredibly insightful takes on pretty much every player on our team, all of them super negative.

Can you direct me to your Wikipedia page so I can check out your stats from when you played in the NHL?


Not sure if you’re new around here? But this is not the tree you wanna be barking up my man!
 

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I thought the team played with a lot of character and heart in the playoffs. Green deserves some credit for that. If we make the playoff again (which I think we will) anything can happen. Green has my full support going into the new season.
 

tyhee

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Perhaps, but really, what is the goal of doing a "bag skate" with professional athletes who are expected to come to camp in shape...and most do? There are obvious goals when working on improving some individual skills or ensuring the power play is functioning in a logical manner. Improvement in both of these areas, for example, can actually lead to winning games.....a "bag skate", not so much!

If I understand correctly the bag skate was done at the end of practice. I wasn't there and don't know the timing but it seems quite possible that he felt the team as a whole had reached the end of their useful learning and concentration period for that practice.

If that is the case and the time wasn't going to be better used for other things, then I don't think it is necessarily wrong if the coach had a reason for scheduling a preseason bag skate.

I can think of a few reasons why a coach might want to hold the bag skate and am sure others can think of more. For example:

1. Seeing who still has energy to go hard at the end of practice can be useful information to a coach in deciding who to play (or, perhaps more importantly, not to play) at the end of a hard game in the early season;

2. Seeing who has and hasn't done the necessary offseason work can affect decisions about the usefulness of players in the future and how players should be related to in the present to get the maximum out of them;

3. Even such a simple thing as a player knowing he'll be humiliated in a bag skate before all his teammates may be enough to help motivate somebody to do a little more in the offseason. It won't be the case often, but all it takes is getting one player to work a little harder to be of some use;

4. There is always the possibility that the reason was the usual reason for bag skates-that the coach wanted to impress on the players that he'd like them to pick up the effort level in future practices.

I'm not in a position say if the bag skate was a wise decision or not, but certainly don't have enough information to criticize it and expect that Green is close-mouthed enough that we'll never know what his reasoning was.
 
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