Does Foligno Get A Hearing For This "Move" on Myers?

[2Pair]

Here's another angle that shows the whole sequence.



Foligno goes down to one knee to block the shot and trips on Myers' foot as he's trying to stand up, causing him to fall forward and swing sideways as he's holding onto Myers with his left hand.

Well, that clip doesn't help the narrative at all.

 

[valet]

You claim there's a punch, yet his elbow stays flexed at 90 degrees the entire clip. Yes grabbing onto his left arm caused the rest of his body to swing toward Myers, thats pretty simple physics.

you ever heard of the uppercut or hook?

 

[Chainshot]

Can't make much out from the corner cam. It seemed out watching it. I have no idea how DoPS dopes do their job, but since it seems everything has a camera angle attached to it, thought it might merit some debate.

 

[Armourboy]

Foligno, crouching tiger, hidden dragon apparently.

 

[TaLoN]

Can't make much out from the corner cam. It seemed out watching it. I have no idea how DoPS dopes do their job, but since it seems everything has a camera angle attached to it, thought it might merit some debate.

It shows angular momentum. When you get swung around it accelerates you.

 

[McFlyingV]

you ever heard of the uppercut or hook?

Now you're reaching. That would require more than ~10-20 degrees of horizontal adduction at the shoulder joint, which is about all you could make the case for occurring in this scenario. If that second clip that was posted wasn't enough to help you better understand physics, then I'm not sure anything will. Go grab onto something with your left hand while falling and see what happens to the rest of your body.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Suspend all the hockey because of the collisions until we find out what the hell is going on!

 

[valet]

Now you're reaching. That would require more than ~10-20 degrees of horizontal adduction at the shoulder joint, which is about all you could make the case for occurring in this scenario. If that second clip that was posted wasn't enough to help you better understand physics, then I'm not sure anything will. Go grab onto something with your left hand while falling and see what happens to the rest of your body.

I'm not the one writing a 10 line defense to a pretty obvious cheap shot... so I'd revise the 'reaching' statement

 

[winnipegger]

It's not clear enough to be a suspension, whatever. Clearly tried to take out his legs.

 

[McFlyingV]

I'm not the one writing a 10 line defense to a pretty obvious cheap shot... so I'd revise the 'reaching' statement

What on earth do I have to gain from defending Foligno? I want the Jets to win this series. My apologies for having the ability to critically think. A skill that seems quite rare on this site.

 

[TaLoN]

first cut up clip shows he never comes close to extending the arm. It stays fixed at 90 degrees. The corner clip shows angular momentum, how his right shoulder by laws of physics will get accelerated in the fall due to the left arm clutching Myers as he's going down.

The two combine for an obvious "accident" conclusion.

 

[IamNotADancer]

It took me a while to even catch what was going on but after looking closer it becomes very clear that this was a blatant punch to the knee. For those saying that "he was falling down trying to brace himself" I have a suspicion that you might not be normal or a stuntman because regular people (and to an extend I count athletes as such) brace themselves for impact and try to use their hands to soften the fall by stretching them out towards the point of impact. Never seen people trying to soften falls with their elbows.
At first I thought he was holding his stick with both hands and it looked awkward because he wanted to be in control of his stick and not get called for high sticking or associated penalties, but his right arm simply does a punching motion towards the knee.
Completely intentional.

 

[libertarian]

This Jet fan says no. While the video looks like he tried to punch Myers in the knee. Who does that if their intent is to injure? It is much more likely that this is a hockey play where one player gets injured. If this was a knee on knee or a slash to the knee that is one thing but a player that is falling down would have the ability to think as he is falling that he can injure a player by punching his knee is insane.

Hockey play.

Hope Myers is ok because the Jets need him.

 

[Bazeek]

Somebody call the Warren Commission.

 

[TaLoN]

I'm not the one writing a 10 line defense to a pretty obvious cheap shot... so I'd revise the 'reaching' statement

Obvious cheap shot how?

 

[McFlyingV]

It took me a while to even catch what was going on but after looking closer it becomes very clear that this was a blatant punch to the knee. For those saying that "he was falling down trying to brace himself" I have a suspicion that you might not be normal or a stuntman because regular people (and to an extend I count athletes as such) brace themselves for impact and try to use their hands to soften the fall by stretching them out towards the point of impact. Never seen people trying to soften falls with their elbows.
At first I thought he was holding his stick with both hands and it looked awkward because he wanted to be in control of his stick and not get called for high sticking or associated penalties, but his right arm simply does a punching motion towards the knee.
Completely intentional.

What you fail to recognize is that he already braced his fall by grabbing onto Myers with his left arm and landing on both his knees. You can blame him for the grab, but the contact with the knee is a direct result of him grabbing on with his left arm.

 

[valet]

Obvious cheap shot how?

uhhhh, the punching him in the knee part

 

[Bruce Granville]

first cut up clip shows he never comes close to extending the arm. It stays fixed at 90 degrees. The corner clip shows angular momentum, how his right shoulder by laws of physics will get accelerated in the fall due to the left arm clutching Myers as he's going down.

The two combine for an obvious "accident" conclusion.

Nah, it's a sophisticated uppercut/hook.
We don't call him Dr. Hook aka Prof. Knee for nothing.

 

[2Pair]

It took me a while to even catch what was going on but after looking closer it becomes very clear that this was a blatant punch to the knee. For those saying that "he was falling down trying to brace himself" I have a suspicion that you might not be normal or a stuntman because regular people (and to an extend I count athletes as such) brace themselves for impact and try to use their hands to soften the fall by stretching them out towards the point of impact. Never seen people trying to soften falls with their elbows.
At first I thought he was holding his stick with both hands and it looked awkward because he wanted to be in control of his stick and not get called for high sticking or associated penalties, but his right arm simply does a punching motion towards the knee.
Completely intentional.

This is the best one yet. Nice work

 

[TaLoN]

uhhhh, the punching him in the knee part

Do you punch without extending your arm? I've never heard of anyone doing so before.

 

[IamNotADancer]

What you fail to recognize is that he already braced his fall by grabbing onto Myers with his left arm and landing on both his knees. You can blame him for the grab, but the contact with the knee is a direct result of him grabbing on with his left arm.

Right, none of us have any idea about physics. Him grabbing his arm actually makes it more likely that this was a punch to the knee because he had control of his body for the most part, therefore the reflex to brace outwards wasn't necessary.

Your condescension and utter ignorance is refreshing really.

 

[valet]

Do you punch without extending your arm? I've never heard of anyone doing so before.

let me refer you back to my hook/uppercut point

 

[State of Hockey]

Do you punch without extending your arm? I've never heard of anyone doing so before.

Never heard of an uppercut or right hook? It's more powerful to not have to extend your arm to make contact.

 

[NotYou]

first cut up clip shows he never comes close to extending the arm. It stays fixed at 90 degrees. The corner clip shows angular momentum, how his right shoulder by laws of physics will get accelerated in the fall due to the left arm clutching Myers as he's going down.

The two combine for an obvious "accident" conclusion.

I think there's some extension of the elbow then he hits myers. That's a reflex that happens in the spinal cord though. What he sees and what he wants to do has nothing to do with it. These two areas of the nervous system don't interact in this reaction. Unless of course it was an elaborate rouse by the best athlete in the planet, Marcus foligno, and he had planned the whole time

 

[Jerts]

It's probably an intentional punch to the knee however it's too difficult to gauge the intent. The reason it's difficult to gauge the intent is that it is so far away from a "hockey play". Like - can you imagine if someone intentionally tried to injure a player in that fashion? It would be embarrassing to have him on your hockey team.