Salary Cap: Do you trust Kyle Dubas with salary negotiations? Deux

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  1. hotpaws

    hotpaws Registered User

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    i like your version better , lol

    The contract was what was needed to get him to come here as a ufa , ufa's in general get paid more than there worth due to the ability to shop themselves to the entire league .

    So while i don't have much of a problem with what he's getting paid i find it ridiculous the team tried to sell a ufa deal as a discount to rfa's in order to get them to take sub market deals since i believe there's a huge difference between not taking the highest offer out of 31 teams and taking less than your comparable's .
     
  2. dsred

    dsred Babcock Gonna Babcock, Dubas gonna Dubas.

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    Don't get me wrong, I've never been a fan of "happy wife, happy life". I hate when guys say that. But between mature adults your wife's feelings are definitely a big consideration.

    Doesn't sound like the people in your example were mature adults.

    Choose wisely my friends.
     
  3. Hockey Crazy

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    Was at the game last night and Nylander was one of their best players at 5 v 5.
     
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    I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, as my wife's pretty chill.
     
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    I could tell by how it’s well documented that Nylander made the last call.
     
  6. dsred

    dsred Babcock Gonna Babcock, Dubas gonna Dubas.

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    Brutal.
     
  7. dsred

    dsred Babcock Gonna Babcock, Dubas gonna Dubas.

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    Mine too. Gonna be 35 years this year.
     
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  8. ToneDog

    ToneDog Voice of Reason

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    Tavares could have gone to the team of his choice. Leafs did not hold his rights and they had nothing invested in him. You are comparing apples and oranges.
     
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    I hope the hell you are not calling this team awesome. Right now they are playing crap hockey. Matthews is floating around like its figure skating nylander has 2 goals in Christ knows how many games. What is it 18.6 million a year and we have a team that is reliant on just a goaltender. Because the other one is certainly not nhl caliber.
     
  10. Ragnar Lothbrok

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    I agree. TBH, for the most part I don't really care what anyone makes, but in cap related sports I do think you have to be smart with your "money". Kind of getting tired of having lockouts and such just to save GM's and owners from themselves.
     
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  11. Notsince67

    Notsince67 Papi and the Lamplighters

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    Pts/60 EV
    Marner 3.4
    Aho 2.8
    Matthews 3.3

    PTs/60 PP
    Marner 6.0
    Aho 6.1
    Matthews 7.0

    PK TOI
    Marner 60.5
    Aho 58.2
    Matthews 1.3

    Aho is clearly getting significantly more PP time.
    I don't think it is obvious that Marner is that close to Aho given his PP p/60 are at a career low given the anemic PP of the leafs this year. Aho is seeing huge increases in his PP performance this year.
     
  12. Notsince67

    Notsince67 Papi and the Lamplighters

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    You don't need to wait for Aho to sign to realize that paying Marner 10+ for 5 years is an overpay. The internal comparables are the flies in the ointment.
     
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    Notsince67 Papi and the Lamplighters

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    Too early to tell. He has played well...yes. I will even concede the recency bias. However, 7 points in 10 games is a 57 point season. It isn't good enough. He needs to maintain a high level of play for a sustained period that is paid off by pucks in the net.
     
  14. Hollywood North

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    Agree with this, Willy is looking good again. He has been the best Leaf on the ice on more than 1 night as of late!
     
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    True.
     
  16. FraumBallard

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    Yeah.
    He caved.
    Fire Dubas!!
     
  17. FraumBallard

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    Superstar.
    Well done.
    28 years here.
     
  18. LeafFever

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    There's nothing wrong with Nylander getting 6.9. People are nuts.
     
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    By me, or by you?lol

    Point was, yes there are younger guys "taking over" point total wise, but those "older" guys are still at the top of the league on point per game and are 2-5 years older than JT. JT has a more complete game than many of the younger who are putting up points. Plus, the intangible of being a Leaf fan his whole life and wanting badly to win a cup here. I doubt we will ever have to worry about his dedication. I would be more worried about us giving $7-$8 mil to a non-elite type player at 27 than the $11 for JT at 27.
     
  20. JT AM da real deal

    JT AM da real deal Registered User

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    You guys are lucky man. Well great picks for both of you. I got a good one too from 25 years ago in States when i played there. But she can get downright nasty and caddy with her girlfriends. Maybe American girls a little different.
     
  21. LeafFever

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    Pay your top stars their $. What you don't do is overpay supporting guys like Marleau and Zaitsev. Thanks Lou.
    So much fuss about Nylander's deal when it's a good one. Meanwhile, no one cares about the corpse of Marleau making 6.3 million per.
     
  22. dsred

    dsred Babcock Gonna Babcock, Dubas gonna Dubas.

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    My wife's American. Brought up mostly in Canada though.
     

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