Discussion in 'Fugu's Business of Hockey Forum' started by Koivu11, Feb 15, 2005.
What do you think?
Does this offer have any revenue sharing? If so, then they might consider it. If not, then they walk away.
I think the league is being selfish by not including revenue sharing. Everyone blames the players for being greedy, but Bettman and his cronies are just as bad.
Of course not, they rather accept a worse deal somewhere January 2006.
Do you know for a fact that the NHL as not include any revenue sharing?
I think the players will accept this offer. Why? Because it's the best offer they will ever get period.
Bettman will and is looking bad with his 42.5M take it or leave it, I thought he would be around 45-46M...that doesn't mean everyone is going to spend it up to that level, my pro owners slant is switching to the players for finally conceeding a cap...Come on Gary work with them here...
I have no idea if they have revenue sharing or not. That's why I asked. I know they were against it earlier, however.
Yeah I am on the owners side but that is a little low. Hopefully the owners will accept something around 46 give or take a million.
Are you telling me that the players will refuse this offer for a 2.5 million gap?
I voted yes, but I'm an optimist. I think the minute they agreed to a salary cap it was just a matter of time before they got the numbers down. They broke down the first wall, I don't think either side is going to let a few million get in the way of a season.
I heard on TSN that the NHL as assure the union that they will be enough revenue sharing to ensure that all the clubs will met the $32 millions floor
44.7 million (that includes bonuses), you call that low for 20 roster players? You must be kidding me....
That I like. If they can make sure no team loses money at 32 million, then that's a good deal. With some good management, teams can go higher and make profits.
I put yes, but only because it will essentially be the same offer... the cap will likely be bumped up a tad.
do you think the NHLPA will reject this right away to make the NHL think about their hard stance longer? Seems like the longer it takes for the NHLPA to respond the more likely the NHLPA will accept it
I put no for the simple reason that Bettman made the letter public. Proposals I can see making public, but not an ultimatium letter. It is not "good faith" negotiating IMO. I think we will hear them reject it very soon.
I would love for the PA to say yes, but Bettman has put a gun to their head. I don't like it, and I don't think the PA does at all.
Having said this I didn't imagine the PA and the league would be this close to a deal... these sides are extremely close. If the PA wants more, just ask for a re-open clause and watch the $$$.
Take it this time so you can give it next time.
Why should their be revenue sharing? This isnt some communist league where if your business fails because you made a dumb decision by bringing it to a market such as carolina, you should be benefited. People who have made smart business decisions like bringing their expansion franchise to St. Paul, running their operation efficiently should not be penalized and should get to keep their profits.
The NHLPA will reject the NHL offer but a counteroffer will be made.The NHLPA wants the hard cap at $46-47 million.They met at $45 million
According to Goodenow and Saskin's previous statements about not negotiating on offers states otherwise. Basically, they said they did not negotiate because they assumed that the triggers were not negotiable. And in this letter it clearly states its the final offer and there is no room for negotiation.
Of course none of this matters, because its crunch time, but I thought I had to take another shot at the PA just for fun.
no, put the cap at 45-46 mill
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