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West has 4 teams that suck at defending and 4 teams (VGK, COL, MIN, STL) that are very possibly all better than any defense in the North Division. Disagree?
Do you think McDavid is having the best season of the 2000s or the new divisions are the reason?
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filinski77
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We all know he's the best player in the league, it could easily just be that he is better at taking advantage of this situation than other players in the league.
At the end of the day 1.82 points/gp in a 56 game season =/= being able to do it in an 82 game season (which he has never done). And doing it while playing only 6 teams =/= being able to do it against 30 teams. It does not discredit what he is doing this season, because every other player also is only playing 56 games and can only play their division as well. But the point is that those 2 things make it very difficult to just assume that someone will do the same thing in a full (and normal) season.
NastyNick
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Given that he's played exclusively in the Canada division, those points should probably be multiplied by .6 and rounded down.
Seriously is this even a question? NEW DIVISIONS YES
Seriously is this even a question? NEW DIVISIONS YES
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Still waiting for the horde of people going 'North division sucks REEEEE' to provide some sort of statistical basis to support the idea.
But they won't because there isn't one.
But they won't because there isn't one.
Pucklington
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Yup. Every teams record, everything can be questioned.
Is there a president trophy winner, or is it an asterisk. Is all in the same story.
I think the thing about McDavid is, league scoring appears to be normal this year. He is just separated from everyone within and outside the division.
Mcdavid was f***ing good coming off a major injury last season, why are we surprised he is better now with even more recovery time and entering his prime years?
Does he get 150 points In a normal season? Maybe not but I would not be shocked in the least to see him get 140. He is that dominant.
Does he get 150 points In a normal season? Maybe not but I would not be shocked in the least to see him get 140. He is that dominant.
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It can't be just format when no one else is even close. Every division has 3 or 4 teams I am sure McDavid could do just as much damage against so I really can't see a good reason to discredit what he is doing. Could he be scoring potentially less in a normal season? That is very possible, but there is really nothing factual to base that on, certainly nothing to suggest a significant difference. He has just improved as a player, even last season he did. I was expecting at least 130 point season this year regardless of the format.
Nor is there some sort of statistical basis to support the idea that he could produce at this rate in a 30 team league over 82 games.
Leon Draisaitl produced at a higher rate last season then he is this season. So statistically there is basis that a high end player can produce at a higher or equivalent rate in a regular 82 game season.
Only if you believe that players are robots and do not have peaks and valleys.
If McDavid is as good as his numbers are this year, he should be able to reproduce them under normal circumstances.
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Nobody else is blowing up the North division so while the division or the shortened season may play a small small role, we should see other players doing similar things if it was simply the division. Someone posted some stats recently about the various division and the scoring rates in them, and the North looks pretty much the same as the other 3 and isn't the highest scoring division.
In comparison to a regular season the divisions have likely less than 5% to do with his current dominance, if any at all. I believe the next full season he will be scoring around 135-140.
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ManofSteel55
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No we haven't, one of those seasons he was coming off of a major knee surgery. Nobody expected him to come back and score 130. Yeesh.
Daver has a major hard on hate for McDavid. Ignore him lol. Always has. One of the few guys names here that I can just remember when I see it
The goal posts will always change
MCavid will get to play much worse teams next year MORE, and that will also balance out with good teams. I say he gets an easy 120 points next year. No problem whatsoever, The roster will be improved as well from inernal and external additions.
I mean, Leon had 90 points in 57 games LAST YEAR
McFlyingV
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People were saying he would be scoring around 135-140 after coming off his sophomore 100pt season? I'm gonna need a source for that David.
That he was going to torch the league whatever the point total was. Like to see him do that over a full season and under normal conditions before accepting this season at face value.
McFlyingV
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I mean maybe not to the degree this season, but he is scoring at 0.18ppg higher than the next player since entering that league which is 15 points over 82 games. In today's NHL that is dominating the competition.
bleedgreen
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It's both the division and likely the best season of the 2000's. It'll always have that tag of the being the division though - so hopefully he does it again next year.
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But you don't seem to have any issues taking Crosby's 1.61 PPG in 41 games during 2010-11 season at face value. Or the 1.68 PPG the year after in 22 games.
His points per game has been increasing every season so next season it could decrease and he would still hit these numbers. Not saying it's a given he will but would you really be surprised?
McFlyingV
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Not to mention McDavid's has been over a far more condensed schedule so far less time to recover on average between games. Less travel of course, but there's arguments to both sides. Trying to discredit him is just silly and if it were so easy to do then everyone would be doing it this year yet only 1 player in the NHL besides McDavid is on pace for 120 points and that player was on pace for 127 last year.But you don't seem to have any issues taking Crosby's 1.61 PPG in 41 games during 2010-11 season at face value. Or the 1.68 PPG the year after in 22 games.
Plus they still travel through 4 different time zones, more than any other division.
