Do we as fans need to pump the breaks a little on judging certain players?
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Henkka
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The main culture here is to whine about everything and have a spacegoat for everything what happens on and off ice. Blaim somebody!
I'm not a fan of that culture. I'll try to be exact opposite, to find the positives from a mix of positives and negatives. Who did good things. More interest about that kind of life.
I'm not a fan of that culture. I'll try to be exact opposite, to find the positives from a mix of positives and negatives. Who did good things. More interest about that kind of life.
marcmadsen
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I think there are a lot of NHL Executives who make their minds up on certain players way too early, let alone how fans definitely do that. It's human nature, to an extent, to formulate opinions on people and things and get stuck with that same opinion. To me, players develop at different rates and have good seasons, bad seasons, good games, bad games, good shifts, and bad shifts. There are ebbs and flows to performance and there are also ebbs and flows in our own abilities to make accurate, reasonable, fair assessments/judgments of things and people. So, I think any time any of us formulate a judgment on something and refrain from allowing that opinion to evolve and develop, we're being short-sighted.
So, I think a lot of ppl/teams give up on guys too early and at times pigeon hole certain guys into certain roles and can never see them as something different
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If you don’t have a big sample size of watching someone, it’s easy to overreact to a few preseason or training camp games.
I tend to go with what I’ve seen from bigger sample sizes (when possible). But I understand it is difficult and time consuming to watch or track some of these players outside of training camp and pre-season. So I think that might lead to some of what you are describing, as far as the prospects are concerned at least.
I tend to go with what I’ve seen from bigger sample sizes (when possible). But I understand it is difficult and time consuming to watch or track some of these players outside of training camp and pre-season. So I think that might lead to some of what you are describing, as far as the prospects are concerned at least.
Hot takes are fun tho. Just need to have a sense of humor with it all imo. We're all pulling for the same cause in the end.
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jkutswings
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Some of it is the nature of the format, though. It's not like intense dialogue on a local sports team will be fertilized by a healthy dose of, "let's wait and see". Especially on a message board.
I'm as guilty as anybody of locking in on a decision early, but sometimes a quick or otherwise bold take can spawn some good conversations.
Heaton
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Being overly negative or overly positive is basically the same thing, it just makes us feel better in different ways. I don't think any fan on either side of the spectrum is better or worse.
jkutswings
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Lil Sebastian Cossa
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And also "Do we as fans need to pump the brakes?"
No matter what follows this statement, the answer is like 99.99999999% of the time Yes.
No matter what follows this statement, the answer is like 99.99999999% of the time Yes.
Pavels Dog
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If you say a player is going to be trash or great because of a few games, you're being silly.
But there's no reason you shouldn't be able to just say that one player had a good or bad game. It happens. Saying it doesn't mean you're making a long-term judgment on that player. I think people get that confused a lot with saying "this player is going to be elite/trash."
But there's no reason you shouldn't be able to just say that one player had a good or bad game. It happens. Saying it doesn't mean you're making a long-term judgment on that player. I think people get that confused a lot with saying "this player is going to be elite/trash."
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I think the thread was born from some stuff like ”you don’t win games with big net front players!” in the same game that ended on a Rasmussen GWG. Definitely some big judgements thrown around.
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ArGarBarGar
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I mean, one guy says a thing then you should address one guy. Not sure what kind of trend you are supposed to get out of that post.
ArGarBarGar
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In the end, like @jkutswings said, the discussion of players in such detail is kind of what you get in an internet forum. We need SOMETHING to talk about, and when we see the new blood play we are going to gravitate to what we are seeing out of them and what it may mean for their future on the team.
The idea this is bred from some "complaining" culture isn't rooted in reality.
The idea this is bred from some "complaining" culture isn't rooted in reality.
RedMenace
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In the end, the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
Why more people aren't "moderate," I'll never know.
Why more people aren't "moderate," I'll never know.
For me it's more of an issue of people posting polarizing opinions without context rather than having a nuanced discussion. In the spirit of your first sentence, things are never black and white with prospects yet many acted like the sky was falling when we drafted Cholowski and Rasmussen.
I guess, I'm just one to prefer a rational detail oriented discussion on prospects rather than a overly dramatic one liner about how terrible Holland and his prospects are.
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jkutswings
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But it's ok to have been disappointed by those picks AT THE TIME, and yet be more encouraged by the players SINCE THEN.
Absolutely agree. I don't expect everyone to agree with every pick. Hell this would be a boring place if that were the case haha. We all have different exposure and thus different opinions of all of these prospect and that's a great thing and one of the reasons I keep coming back to this forum.
And to be completely fair I do feel a lot of the sensational posting I referred to has died down recently.
