Proposal: Do the Wings have what it takes to get to #2 (Svech)

[WxIxNxGxSxFxAxNx26]

Im sure it's been discussed already but...

What would it take? And would it be worth it for a team that severely needs help on the back end?

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[Boom Boom Apathy]

No. I mean, No they don't have what it takes to get #2.

1) Svechnikov is the ONLY prospect in Carolina Hurricanes History that they invited to Carolina prior to the draft. (except in 2004 when the draft was in Carolina). Not even Eric Staal.
2) They held a meet and greet with Season Ticket Holders and Svechnikov already. You don't do that unless you are 100% sure you are picking him.
3) Waddell and Dundon have already stated that they are picking Svechnikov unless somebody totally blows them away with an offer and nobody has come close yet. Wings aren't going to give up what it would take to have the Canes give up #2OA.
4) Dundon said this today on the radio: He really likes Svechnikov as a person, and they feel he has the skills to be a star with the personality and work ethic to push into superstar status. He is their obvious choice and there’s nothing short of a huge return that would get them to part with the pick."
5) The draft is in Dallas, which is Dundon's home town and his daughters are going to be runners at the draft. This is his moment in the sun.

The chances of the Canes trading the #2OA is about as close to zero as you can get.

EDIT: I'm not saying the Wings don't have the assets, I mean they wouldn't part with the assets it would take to get the pick.

 

[AvatarAang]

Not unless they can trick everyone into thinking they've already drafted him 19th overall in 2015

 

[rent free]

your franchise player + something else with some value

 

[Savant]

Maybe valuewise, but Carolina isnt trading out

 

[GoldiFox]

Nope.

I wouldn’t do #2 for #6 + Larkin if that puts it into.context (and I’m sure Detroit also says no). Svechnikov is as close to a 40+ goal superstar as one will find in the Draft. Exactly what Carolina needs.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

 

[Tatar Shots]

Not unless they can trick everyone into thinking they've already drafted him 19th overall in 2015

Already did. Don’t know what everyone is talking about

 

[Hammettf2b]

Do the Wings have the pieces to get the #2 pick? yes. Are the Wings willing to depart with what it would take? no.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

No. I mean, No they don't have what it takes to get #2.

1) Svechnikov is the ONLY prospect in Carolina Hurricanes History that they invited to Carolina prior to the draft. (except in 2004 when the draft was in Carolina). Not even Eric Staal.
2) They held a meet and greet with Season Ticket Holders and Svechnikov already. You don't do that unless you are 100% sure you are picking him.
3) Waddell and Dundon have already stated that they are picking Svechnikov unless somebody totally blows them away with an offer and nobody has come close yet. Wings aren't going to give up what it would take to have the Canes give up #2OA.
4) Dundon said this today on the radio: He really likes Svechnikov as a person, and they feel he has the skills to be a star with the personality and work ethic to push into superstar status. He is their obvious choice and there’s nothing short of a huge return that would get them to part with the pick."
5) The draft is in Dallas, which is Dundon's home town and his daughters are going to be runners at the draft. This is his moment in the sun.

The chances of the Canes trading the #2OA is about as close to zero as you can get.

EDIT: I'm not saying the Wings don't have the assets, I mean they wouldn't part with the assets it would take to get the pick.

Damn what if pulls a troll job and drafts him instead of Dahlin?

 

[DRW204]

I wouldn't trade Svech if I was CAR. He will be a beast in the NHL

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

If Evgeny and Andrei end up playing together at the NHL level in the next 7 (+) years, it will be in Carolina, not Detroit.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Damn what if pulls a troll job and drafts him instead of Dahlin?

Then we happily draft Dahlin and go on our merry way. But the chances of that happening (Sabres passing on Dahlin) are probably less than the chances of the Canes moving the #2oA pick.

 

[Saidin]

I must be living under a rock... I was like wtf how did Carolina get the 2nd OA pick. Did they trade for it? They were fighting for a playoff spot at the end of the year.

Now I see they won it in the draft lottery.

Good for you guys! Happy that you won it and not a lot of other teams.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Detroit isn't looking to move up to #2 or talking with the Canes. If they move up it's to #3 and looking at Zadina rumor is that Holland is very high on Zadina.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Sure they do, they would just never give up what it'd take.

 

[Halla]

yeah they have the pieces. pick 6 and their 2019 1st probably gets it done.
is svechnikov really that much better than a dobson/wahlstrom/bouchard though?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

yeah they have the pieces. pick 6 and their 2019 1st probably gets it done.
is svechnikov really that much better than a dobson/wahlstrom/bouchard though?

I highly doubt that gets it done. Canes are sold on this guy (as I showed above) and have said they would only move that pick for something that "blows them away". The #6OA and a mystery first rounder next year isn't "blowing them away". This isn't about fair value, which is why you haven't seen a team knowingly trade out of the top 3 since 2002.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Could DET offer their no.6 pick and Larkin for the no.2 overall and make the deal work? Sure

Would DET ever do that? NO

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Nope.

I wouldn’t do #2 for #6 + Larkin if that puts it into.context (and I’m sure Detroit also says no). Svechnikov is as close to a 40+ goal superstar as one will find in the Draft. Exactly what Carolina needs.

Ya but you also would trade #16 and Ottawa's 2019 1st for #4 if you were COL....

 

[SaskCanesFan]

yeah they have the pieces. pick 6 and their 2019 1st probably gets it done.
is svechnikov really that much better than a dobson/wahlstrom/bouchard though?

Yeah that's not even close to enough

 

[GoldiFox]

Ya but you also would trade #16 and Ottawa's 2019 1st for #4 if you were COL....

I was responding to a poster (you?) saying there was zero value in Colorado trying to make a deal for the #4. I used #16 + Ottawa 2019 for #4 as an illustrative example, but I still think it looks like good value when you posted it just now.

Do you still believe that adding Zadina or Tkachuk to Colorado’s roster next year has zero value compared to picking a prospect at #16 and waiting to see where Ottawa picks in 2019? I still disagree. Not sure why it is necessary to bring up here.

 

[lucaseider]

Yeah that's not even close to enough

I think that would be too much, wings are gonna be in the running for last overall next season, and if they get it, hughes is far better than svech, let alone the 6 from this year. That said, I can see canes fans nervous about it since who knows where the wings finish, but i expect a pick in the top 4-5 at the least in this draft.

 

[NotOpie]

Could DET offer their no.6 pick and Larkin for the no.2 overall and make the deal work? Sure

Would DET ever do that? NO

I know this sounds stupid and homerish (Carolina fan), but I think when Waddell says "he'd have to be blown away"....he's talking unreasonable overpayment....so you'd be adding to #6 and Larkin. Personally, I'd strongly consider #6 and Larkin, but it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Panthaz89]

the first two picks aren't moving....they are exactly what both teams need.