Big Phil
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Since I've known that the lockout was going to happen since 2002 I've kept tabs on the comments players have made since then. My favourite is Bryan McCabe's. "We're prepared to sit out for the rest of our lives, before accepting a cap!" Hmmm. Then again this is coming from a guy who sports a hideous mohawk and coughs the puck up to Keith Primeau twice in a playoff game andf makes him look like Mario Lemieux. Yeah I don't put too much stock into that one.
How about Brendan Shanahan and Brad Richards over the last year. Both said along the same lines that they won't sacrifice a lesser deal for the future players cause they don't want to be selfish. The players before them sacrificed a lot to get the guys today what they want. Okay let me see here. Wasn't it just four years a go Brad that you were playing for the Rimouski OCeanic of the QMJHL. My question is has he lost touch with reality that badly in four years?
And not being selfish? Hello? Accepting a deal where the average player gets $1.3 mill instead of $1.8 mill is not going to be selfish guys. Is it that bad that guys like Crosby, Ovechkin etc. will only make $8 mill a year instead of Pronger and Jagr's $10 mill. How much is that going to hurt you? Really think about it.
And don't even start about the thing about players before me sacrificed a lot. Yeah they did. But before 1972 NHL players made about what we make today. Not a lot of people know this but Phil Esposito had to work every summer until 1972 at a steel mill just to make ends meat. The guy was the scoring Champion! The Hart Trophy winner a Stanlye Cup winner and he did a regular job like me. Can you imagine working next to Alexei Yashin in a Steel Mill. lol Sure. Yeah the generation fought before you guys but that's because they weren't poor, literally poor. They did it so they could eat!
Why are ex NHLers going against the players? Larry Robinson, Lafleur, Beliveau all have made comments about this. Beliveau retired in 1971 and never made more than an average workman's salary. But Robinson and Lafleur both made decent money were part of the NHLPA but yet they still lash out agianst the players. That says something.
Yes the owners did overpay the Yashins and the Jagr's of the world. But Yashin once held out for an entire season - when he had a contract! If the Isles don't sign him then the Rangers or someone else do. So there is pressure on owners and GMs to fill the seats. If you invest $200 million dollars into a franchise don't you want to have a little bit of profit back? I would. What's wrong with that. What's wrong is the Fedorov's, Guerins, Yashins, and Carters (thats Anson) of the world have held out based on egos, which have ultimately helped drive player salaries up. Can you exlpain why else Carter was on three NHL teams in the past year?
And my favourite in Vinny Damphousse. After the NHLPA meeting with about 70 players his comment was we want to do what's best for the ASSOCIATION. No not the fans, not the game, the NHLPA! While you think about that I've got to find a way to come with $560 for my rent money next month.
How about Brendan Shanahan and Brad Richards over the last year. Both said along the same lines that they won't sacrifice a lesser deal for the future players cause they don't want to be selfish. The players before them sacrificed a lot to get the guys today what they want. Okay let me see here. Wasn't it just four years a go Brad that you were playing for the Rimouski OCeanic of the QMJHL. My question is has he lost touch with reality that badly in four years?
And not being selfish? Hello? Accepting a deal where the average player gets $1.3 mill instead of $1.8 mill is not going to be selfish guys. Is it that bad that guys like Crosby, Ovechkin etc. will only make $8 mill a year instead of Pronger and Jagr's $10 mill. How much is that going to hurt you? Really think about it.
And don't even start about the thing about players before me sacrificed a lot. Yeah they did. But before 1972 NHL players made about what we make today. Not a lot of people know this but Phil Esposito had to work every summer until 1972 at a steel mill just to make ends meat. The guy was the scoring Champion! The Hart Trophy winner a Stanlye Cup winner and he did a regular job like me. Can you imagine working next to Alexei Yashin in a Steel Mill. lol Sure. Yeah the generation fought before you guys but that's because they weren't poor, literally poor. They did it so they could eat!
Why are ex NHLers going against the players? Larry Robinson, Lafleur, Beliveau all have made comments about this. Beliveau retired in 1971 and never made more than an average workman's salary. But Robinson and Lafleur both made decent money were part of the NHLPA but yet they still lash out agianst the players. That says something.
Yes the owners did overpay the Yashins and the Jagr's of the world. But Yashin once held out for an entire season - when he had a contract! If the Isles don't sign him then the Rangers or someone else do. So there is pressure on owners and GMs to fill the seats. If you invest $200 million dollars into a franchise don't you want to have a little bit of profit back? I would. What's wrong with that. What's wrong is the Fedorov's, Guerins, Yashins, and Carters (thats Anson) of the world have held out based on egos, which have ultimately helped drive player salaries up. Can you exlpain why else Carter was on three NHL teams in the past year?
And my favourite in Vinny Damphousse. After the NHLPA meeting with about 70 players his comment was we want to do what's best for the ASSOCIATION. No not the fans, not the game, the NHLPA! While you think about that I've got to find a way to come with $560 for my rent money next month.