Do both McDavid and Kucherov getting 100 assists in a season marginalize the accomplishment?

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

The original post I replied to was saying how obviously no one would've had 100 assists in the season Benn scored 87, I said only Gretzky at his peak could've done that. They then responded saying Thornton could've since he had 96 assists in a lower scoring era, I then explained that 2005-06 was closer to this season in scoring than the one Benn won the Ross with 87 points, and 16 players in 2005-06 had more points than the Art Ross winner that season.



I'm talking about the one where Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points. That was the original post I responded to.

Oh my mistake. Your probably right then. Only the 85-86 gretzky would be able to in 14-15

 

[Golden_Jet]

The original post I replied to was saying how obviously no one would've had 100 assists in the season Benn scored 87, I said only Gretzky at his peak could've done that. They then responded saying Thornton could've since he had 96 assists in a lower scoring era, I then explained that 2005-06 was closer to this season in scoring than the one Benn won the Ross with 87 points, and 16 players in 2005-06 had more points than the Art Ross winner that season.



I'm talking about the one where Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points. That was the original post I responded to.

You doubled down, like I said in the first line you quoted, Thornton never had 96.
points, that’s why I responded.

 

[Jetcetera]

The original post I replied to was saying how obviously no one would've had 100 assists in the season Benn scored 87, I said only Gretzky at his peak could've done that. They then responded saying Thornton could've since he had 96 assists in a lower scoring era, I then explained that 2005-06 was closer to this season in scoring than the one Benn won the Ross with 87 points, and 16 players in 2005-06 had more points than the Art Ross winner that season.



I'm talking about the one where Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points. That was the original post I responded to.

I think i misunderstood you as well

 

[spiny norman]

No, just as Selanne and Mogilny getting 76 goals in the same season wasn't.

 

[WalterLundy]

The original post I replied to was saying how obviously no one would've had 100 assists in the season Benn scored 87, I said only Gretzky at his peak could've done that. They then responded saying Thornton could've since he had 96 assists in a lower scoring era, I then explained that 2005-06 was closer to this season in scoring than the one Benn won the Ross with 87 points, and 16 players in 2005-06 had more points than the Art Ross winner that season.



I'm talking about the one where Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points. That was the original post I responded to.

Adjusted to
2014-15: EVG: 2.02, PPG: 0.57, SHG: 0.07

86 Gretzky: 80 GP: 108 A (111 pace)
88 Gretzky: 64 GP: 77 A (99 pace)
91 Gretzky: 78 GP: 92 A (97 pace)
85 Gretzky: 80 GP: 92 A (94 pace)
86 Gretzky: 79 GP: 87 A (90 pace)

89 Lemieux: 76 GP: 77 A (83 pace)
90 Lemieux: 59 GP: 54 A
92 Lemieux: 64 GP: 63 A
93 Lemieux: 60 GP: 64 A (87 pace)
96 Lemieux: 70 GP: 72 A (84 pace)

91 Oates: 61 GP: 67 A (90 pace)

21 McDavid: 56 GP: 68 A (100 pace)
24 McDavid: 76 GP: 88 A (95 pace)

24 Kucherov: 81 GP: 87 A (88 pace)

Gretzky was the only one legitimately capable of 100 assists in 2014-15. McDavid 21 and 24 are incredible. Can add Thornton and Orr but they don’t hit 100 or pace for it.

 

[mouser]

Would have preferred a simple Yes or No on the poll options without embellishments.

 

[34]

Yes, a lot.

 

[Toby91ca]

Did Wayne Gretzky's scoring get marginalized just because Mario Lemieux turned up a few years later? No, it didn't.

What matters are the general circumstances.
Was Selanne scoring 76 goals in 92/93 somehow less special because Mogilny did it as well? No, it wasn't.

1 - Mario didn’t come along and match Gretzky’s numbers though. He didn’t score 210+ points, 90+ goals, 160+ assists.

2 - Mogilny and Selanne scoring 76 goals the same year absolutely makes it less special, but perhaps more due to overall scoring that year….here were 14 guys who scored 50 or more goals, that’s insane.

From another thread

I get that 40 and 100 has only been done by 3 guys, but it’s random. That’s simply not better than 64 and 89 that McDavid scored last year.

Had another look at this....yes, other than Kucherov, only Mario and Wayne did 40+100, but does that make it better than the following:

- 60+80 - done by 7 guys
- 65+75 - done by 4 guys
- 50+90 - done by 3 guys (MacKinnon had 51 goals and 89 assists this season.....so missed out on this club....would his season be seen as better if he scored 1 less goal and replaced it with an assist?)

 

[Chuck Testa]

100 assists in a season is f***ing impressive no matter how you slice it. Both players have teammates that are capable of finishing plays, which obviously helps.

Playing on strong powerplay units featuring guys like Leon Draisaitl, Evan Bouchard, Hyman or a Brayden Point, Victor Hedman, Stamkos etc helps out big time when it comes to accumulating assists.

That's not in any way meant to take away from McDavid or Kucherov because both of those guys are two of the greatest players that have played during my lifetime.