Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by dubey, Oct 13, 2018.
Even though he's no longer playing for them
I find this hilarious in more ways I was prepared.
money well spent.
And yet he will probably help us because he’s so ****ing terrible.
The Phaneuf trade to Ottawa made be the best trade the Leafs have made in decades. I still can't believe LouLam managed to work out a trade that got rid of Phaneuf's contract with no salary retained.
How the hell did the Leafs get rid of that entire cap hit of Phaneuf? Brilliant trade. 18 months later the Sens move him and they have to take money back.
It was a great trade for Ottawa too. They gave up practically nothing, got a solid top-4 defenseman for 2 seasons, including a deep playoff run, and managed to dump him off, only retaining 1.75. A win-win trade for sure.
They did a great job getting rid of him. He gets slower and slower every year.
I still can't believe we unloaded Phaneuf to Ottawa.
Honestly, at his cap hit, he’s been a pretty solid third pairing guy for the Kings.
How was it a win-win though? Your team went deep, sure. But they were deeply flawed and management built of the misleading success of that year to trade for Duchene.
He's been unloaded twice. It really is amazing. Teams keep falling for it. LA would be better off with Gaborik on LTIR, and Brickley or a different prospect playing for Dion
Is that really a good cap hit for the 3rd-pairing?
Ottawa won also because Toronto took back millions of salary in return in Cowen, Michalek and Greening. All of them were beyond useless at that point.
Not to mention the fact that the Sens dumped a TON of bad contracts on the Leafs too, then managed to get two good seasons out of him turn around dump him (and Nate Thompson) on the Kings while only retaining $1.75M? They made out like absolute thieves.
Can someone do the math on all the salary the Sens dumped on the Leafs compared to how much they paid Phaneuf for those two seasons?
True. I suppose the context is a bit more complex than I was willing to admit. But the Leafs have so many resources they can afford to stuff players like Greening or Michalek in the minors. We just weren't a good team and needed a clean slate too.
Crazy to think how good he was his first few years. I was so excited when we got him for a bunch of scraps.
Then I was so excited to trade him to a rival
Meh, he helped us go on our playoff run in 17, I ain’t mad.
This is even funnier then it sounds.
So Ottawa is manhandling LA with a <6 million dollar blueline? Some would say that's money well spent but I guess durr 0 days durr.
Playing like he is on our payroll. Plan worked.
I did it based off of AAV, because actual salary would have taken too much time haha
So Ottawa paid/is paying Phaneuf a total of 21M. 14M for the essentially two seasons of play, and an additional 7M for the 4 seasons of 1.75M retained.
A total of 13.4M went to the Leafs. 8M paid to Michalek in cap hit, Cowen only cost 100K-1M, depending on how much he was paid in the last quarter of the 15-16 season. the Leafs then bought him out costing a net of 100K on the caphit. Colin Greening got paid 5.3M.
So, if you were to look at actual salaries, it gets close to a wash. Even if you add in Cowen's 6.2M they would of paid off the cap directly to him, it's 19.6M to TOR and 21M to OTT.
So yeah, money wise, it was a wash for Ottawa and they got a deep run, which may or may not have been helped by Phaneuf.
Toronto, it was a big win for. As they got rid of Phaneuf's remaining 35M, and only had to take on a total of 13.4M on the cap in a year they had no use for the cap space anyway
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