Did the Blues make a mistake not re-signing Pietrangelo?

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  1. Azrael89 Registered User

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    I keep saying this same thing. It’s a miracle they won that cup. The team they had that might have been a dynasty kept losing out to the Blackhawks dynasty.
     
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    It wasn't just up to them, tho. The player has to want to re-sign. Perhaps that wasn't the case. Or perhaps he only would have re-signed for a truly obscene amount of money, which made it impossible.
     
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    Schenn: 6.5M until 2027
    Faulk: 6.5M until 2027
    Krug: 6.5M until 2027
    Binnington: 6M until 2027

    The Blues are done as contenders until 2028.
     
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    You do understand that you just described a decent percentage of USA, right?
     
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    Pretty much. Would much prefer If we overpayed Petro, but I think there must have been some outside factors involved. Maybe the Blues thought ROR was the better leader for the team or Petro just didn't want to stay in STL that much. Weird how Armstrong doesn't want to give out NMC's but has no problem giving NTC's all over the place. It's going to be very hard to re-shape the roster.
     
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    The Blues eliminated the Blackhawks as many times as the Blackhawks eliminated the Blues over the last decade plus.

    Back to Pietrangelo, it didn't make sense for Army to give win-now contracts that would look bad halfway through their duration to Schenn and Faulk, let Pietro walk, then give out another one of those contracts to Binnington. If you're ignoring aging curves for these lesser players, why take such a hard line on your elite dman? And why replace Pietrangelo's contract with Krug's when the last few years of Krug's contract will be ugly anyway? I get that Pietrangelo is older than these guys, but he's also better.
     
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    Short term it’s a big mistake but long term that contract Pietro got is going to be an absolute anchor.
     
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    Their GM's ego was too big.
     
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    They lost a playoff series to Blackhawks once in the postseason from 2012-present.

    The only team that won a series against them twice during that time period? The 2012 and 2013 LA Kings.

    The other PO exits were to the Wild, Canucks, Sharks, Predators.
     
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    Wouldn't he still collect the whole kit an kaboodle if he gets an "Injury" and goes on ltir?

    I don't think his plan is to retire.. just play it out until he doesn't want to or can't (quite honestly it's probably been off the record agreed upon between himself and the team, when they both agree on the time etc).. then claim a legit or quasi legit injury to go perma ltir.

    Play in the NHL for 15 years and you could probably convince any doctor that you can't play NHL hockey no more. The game is hard on the body.
    I'm sure Alex has something nagging that he could pitch to a doctor.

    I do wonder how hard involved the insurance companies get and if his contract is insured at all. Perhaps that's the gamble?
     
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    You ask this question now but what about in years 3, 4, 5 and so on. As a rangers fan ive seen plenty of bad contracts and now some of the tools that helped the rangers get rid of them dont exist amnesty buyouts, burying bad contracts in the minors, 10+ year contracts
     
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    I like it how they lost to the Avs is the premise, what is it 2016? They are toothless upfront and lost a lot of size with the departures of AP and Maroon. As as Avs fan that's what I noticed.
     
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    For 8M, you think he's retiring?
    You kidding me? No way he's leaving that much money on the table.
    If the contract was front loaded you'd have a case for him retiring early, but it's the opposite.
     
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    The Blues will make another run next year and if it doesnt work they will start to unload some vets and retool
     
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    I can't say I'm surprised at the responses, Thanks for answering everyone, And for the record I'm a Blues fan and I'll say I'm glad the Blues won when they did cause they aren't winning another one anytime soon. Yes I would've liked to see the Blues win another cup, I really would but for a team that was win now with a open window, That window shattered when they didn't re-sign their captain.
     
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    It doesn’t get worse than regions of the Midwest/south. Everywhere else is rather tolerable.
     
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    I mean it essentially shut down their Cup window.

    On the other hand, hasn’t been Pietrangelo been, like, not...great for Vegas? That is not a good sign for a 31-year-old defenseman in Y1 of a $61,000,000 contract with a NMC for the entirety. Like at all.

    On the other other hand, Vegas has such a good team that they probably don’t even need him to be all that great anyway.
     
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    By all accounts he was fine with the area, his wife is from the area as well and he didn’t sell his house.

    If that was such an issue, why do the Blues have one of the largest alumni orgs in the league as well as have many alumni stay in the area?
     
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    Petro was not great at the start of the season. But that has changed.
     
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    It looks bad only if Vegas don't win. If Vegas wins a cup or two in following years, nobody cares how badly Pietro will play at 37.
     
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    I imagine he just didn't want to stay there.
     
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    I think you had that thought in mind because you completely misunderstood that post. LTIR is completely different. Not sure if you’re aware, they still get paid.
     
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    I can only speak for myself and my preferences.
     
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    I get the feeling the Faulk deal/signing only happened because Pietrangelo indicated he wanted to test free agency
     
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    Armstrong wanted to close the door himself instead of having it close on his way out.
     

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