Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by Epictetus, Oct 25, 2013.
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Man do we need Tanaka.
I say bid 70mil and negotiate a 5-7 yr deal for 10-15mil per.
Its not my money.
...really? The only pitcher worthy of any awards in the slightest was Buehrle.
I have to say, the Cardinals are a factory when it comes to developing talent. Two 22-year olds and a 23-year old pitched the Cardinals to victory in a World Series game last night. Unbelievable.
Despite their recent championships, I never really thought of them, but they are truly one of the league's model franchises. It also shows how far the Jays have to go to not only become a contender, but a sustainable one over a 5/7/10-year period (or in the case of the Yankees, 20).
Watching the games, Dickey seems more deserving of a gold glove. Doesn't matter though, it's all based on reputation.
They also have Taveras who is considered to be a top three prospect in the MLB. I believe they are extremly strong on how they develop players. Wacha was projected to be a 3-4 starter but his development accelerated and he could be a 1-2 starter. This is where the Jays suck. They haven`t developed many good players in the last 10 years or so.
On the subject of Tanaka. I am going to ask everyone to submit the number you think the winning bid will be and see who comes the closest so you can see just how hard it is to say ahead of time what it will be.
Post what you believe the winning bid is and I will post all the results when the winning bid is announced.
I will say 55 million.
Edited, poor Woodrow's request. My answer shall be PM'd.
51.333333 mil. then 7 yr deal 14mil a yr contract
Just posting fee all, no need for the contract.
Both are outstanding fielders
This should be blindly submitted (via pm).
Hmmm true. I think less people will actually do it but so be it!
Everyone who has posted edit it out and anyone who would like to participate submit your winning answer via PM to me. In the spirit of the blind posting process, the contest should also be blind.
Doesn't hurt that they have Carpenter and Wainwright as mentors for him. We really ****ed up with Carpenter.
How are these 2 in the gold glove finals, Verlander,Lester,the list goes on and on. The MLB has something wrong with their stuff (And the NHL has something wrong with their power rankings ) These leagues gotta get their stuff right
We had Halladay and we couldn't develop pitchers.
Player development starts in the minors. When Kelly, Miller Wacha etc. come up to the majors they are already very good pitchers.
There are rumblings the Reds will move Chapman to the rotation again in the spring. If that happens, it makes it more likely that they'd be open to moving Bailey or Latos. I still don't see Bats going there. AA's job could be in danger with another poor season, and I don't see him making such a risky move. He's more likely to go all-in once more, maybe putting in a competitive bid for Tanaka, then trading bullpen arms to the Reds for Phillips.
Moreover on Tanaka, scouts peg him as more of a Kuroda than a Darvish. You never know until they actually get here, but that's the kind of pitcher the Jays could really use, and would be preferable over a Ubaldo or Ervin Santana.
Verlander? Gold glover? Lol Buehrle won four in a row for good reason. He's known as one of the best fielders on the mound. Dickey was nothing short of excellent with regards to defense too. They're more deserving of this award than say, Derek Jeter in his prime or Adam Jones last season.
The award is going to Fister anyway.
In 2009, the Cards were ranked like 27th in farm system ratings. Oh how that has changed.
Trading assets for Phillips worries me. He is on the decline and has a big salary.
His numbers were far superior to Kuroda, at a younger age, in a more challenging league.
The Yankees have pretty much been a contender for many years ever since their inception
Not sure how they were in the 70s and 80s, but still, they've been good for a looong time
Money does buy some things
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