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Player Discussion: Devon Toews
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islesfan3913
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This must be Devon a Toews account lol. He’s been talked about plenty but nothing about him at all screams “PP QB”, and he has zero chance of winning the Calder. A prospect like Dahlin already has a slim chance because you need huge point totals as a d-man to win, and a rookie d-man most likely won’t reach it.
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Toews put up huge numbers in the AHL, was an AHL All star.
Watch his assist from last nights game. He's absolutely a PP QB.
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Well if a rookie d-man can’t reach the Calder, I guarantee a veteran d-man can’t
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Well if a rookie d-man can’t reach the Calder, I guarantee a veteran d-man can’t
Pretty sure he meant that it would take an obscene point total to win the Calder and veteran dmen don't even put up enough points on a regular basis so it's hard to believe a rookie could.
I think we can all agree that if Devon Toews even gets 1 top 3 vote for the Calder it'd be a miracle.
islesfan3913
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He didn’t have “huge numbers” besides last year. He had 45 points in 76 games the year before and then 22 in 30 last year. Those are very good numbers, but it’s not like he was dominating and was the top offensive defenseman in terms of prospects. You can probably knock off at least 15 from that 45 if you want to extrapolate it to the NHL level.
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He should absolutely be on the roster over Sbisa. The tank is real.
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I will just have to question his age. Turgeon JT were in this league at 18. Kaspairaites was around 19, 24 is mid career a lot of guys are out of the NHL by 30. It shouldn't take six years from.draft day to learn defense. When the ISLES had a real Gm and real coacg the defenseman were playing here by 19 20 21. Are the Ahl coaches that bad? Or the players just not that good? Will Toews be a rookie next year at 25 ?
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sorry, i hope it doesn't sound like we are picking on you, but... Toews is not big. 6'1" and 191 lbs (NHL.com website). doesn't play big, IMO. adequate defensively, but certainly not 'physical'.
i agree, i think he looks good qb'ing the PP. love him and want to see more, but i don't see him contending for the Calder.
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If Toews can be a solid top-4 LD, we've hit the jackpot. If he can be a CdH or even CdH-lite, we should be thrilled. He brings a very similar skillset and may provide a bit more offensive punch. He should be a good match as Pulock's regular partner, like he was in the AHL.
His emergence would help fill our 2nd most glaring need, frees us to focus on getting Barzal's #2C.
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Why's this argument so binary? They are aren't tanking, but they certainly aren't going to jeopardize the potential success of any asset or any player for limited success this year. This team is not good. That doesn't mean we are tanking. It just means we aren't any good. By some spectacular Vegas magic, maybe we see an actual competitive team that rallies around some change and infused structure, but nobody should be expecting that. The goal is to be a cup contender in 2-3 years. Not "not a joke" or "maybe win a round". Not seeing our prospects "not bust" but actually seeing them evolving into legit all-stars instead of only getting a Palffy, Tavares, Barzal when they are 18 and then having everyone else suck dick.
People are going to freak out every game in October with the lineup choices while this team is still being evaluated and planned for TWO YEARS from now. This roster and who is getting regular minutes is going to look vastly different in the spring of even this season than it does in the fall. If Toews spends the full year riding the pressbox in the NHL, then we have right to be pissed. But not playing in the very first games for a rookie in which the team will not be good and everyone is new is not really the end of the world.
He'll be fine and get his reps and our goal is to maximize his ceiling, not go .500 and stunt his growth. There's a reason they brought in veterans, and it isn't to win the Stanley Cup this year. It's to establish structure and professionalism. If this team resembles anything instead of a giant f***ing mickey mouse joke, that will be the greatest achievement it's had in 30 years.
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islesfan3913
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In aaronjudge11’s world, every team every year are bringing players like this up.
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You guys realize Tyler Myers once won the Calder without putting up stupid point totals right? So it can happen.
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Veterans will always have the edge during training camp.
Unless the younger player is head and shoulders better than the veteran, coaches will always lean towards the vet
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The numbers game will see him start in the minors but he will be up at some point with injury or trade. I think they would like to have him eligible for BST playoffs and a run at the calder cup so he may well win the calder.
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