GDT: Devils vs. Rangers - 7:00 PM - MSG+
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also the way he's been moving the puck on zone exits. When he's back there, and the puck moves to his corner, we don't get trapped very often. That to me is the most impressive thing. Much better than Andy Greene on his last legs, who is the one he replaced.
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I think he looks better at wing, it's just he's touching the puck less so you get less opportunities to see his skill. Also he's hurting his line less to be frank.
I'm not going to pretend I have the magic formula to make it happen for the kid but it's getting harder and harder to call his season anything but a disaster.
AfroThunder396
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It's already a disappointment. Not sure I'm seeing any signs of growth at all at this point too. Maybe he's become a better backchecker v. the first 20 games? Whatever you want to call it, it's at best been a disappointing season for him so far.
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Please no more Carrick or Claesson after this year. And enough of Mueller too.
I don’t have much faith in Mermis being good, but he’s been good enough so far that I’d give him a look over these other three idiots.
Carrick is the ultimate journeyman, Claesson has no ceiling and is basically Carrick without all the changing of NHL teams so far and Mueller has gotten a ton of chances and can be replaced very easily.
I don’t have much faith in Mermis being good, but he’s been good enough so far that I’d give him a look over these other three idiots.
Carrick is the ultimate journeyman, Claesson has no ceiling and is basically Carrick without all the changing of NHL teams so far and Mueller has gotten a ton of chances and can be replaced very easily.
glenwo2
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Aside from the first part of the bolded, I agree with the rest.
And I also say I would take Mermis over Butcher at this point.
He's 26 so we could keep him around (if he continues to play like he resembles an actual Defenseman) for a few years until we find someone more permanent.
And unlike you, I DO have *SOME* faith in him in not messing up, let alone being "good".
Hell....being "good" might as well BE a Devils D-man not messing up.
SteveCangialosi123
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Being very bad at finishing is a big part of the disappointment though. He’s been unlucky, but he’s also shown very little shooting talent or finishing ability. That alone is a reason to lower expectations of how much he will produce.
I disagree - observable shooting talent takes significantly more than one season to make any judgments one way or another. We can likely infer that Hughes will not be an above-average shooter, but we also don't really have a clear idea of how often he will shoot, either.
As to Hughes, we need to wait at least another year, I'd say even the season after next - when he'll be twenty - to make judgments.
Too reasonable! He is obviously a bust
One would think that the same fanbase that has given Pavel Zacha 250+ games of patience might give Jack Hughes more than 50+ games of patience...
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That patience is not unanimous among Devils fans. A significant portion of our fanbase has wanted Zacha gone for years.
Devils731
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I look forward to people calling our pick this year a bust before we even draft him.Ty Smith got 0 games from some, so maybe people are just less patient now.
glenwo2
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I never said Hughes is a bust or a disaster, I said his season may well be classified a disaster. For a bit of a reality check: I have no issue calling Kakko's season a disaster, he's been nearly invisible every rangers game I've seen, and if he does touch the puck he looks totally outclassed (beyond his elite possession skills). He shouldn't be in the NHL right now.
Hughes has looked better than Kakko but they both are sitting at 21 points on the year.
I'm hopeful Hughes can translate his obvious skill into becoming a useful top 6 center, but he's not there yet and I'm not sure he's headed toward stardom anymore. He has to take a massive jump next year, hopefully we can see more these last 20 games to make us confident it's coming.
Hughes has looked better than Kakko but they both are sitting at 21 points on the year.
I'm hopeful Hughes can translate his obvious skill into becoming a useful top 6 center, but he's not there yet and I'm not sure he's headed toward stardom anymore. He has to take a massive jump next year, hopefully we can see more these last 20 games to make us confident it's coming.
Brooklyndevil
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Noting against Travis, good solid soldier. However, he won’t be helping Hughes much. I rather see Hughes center Wood and McLeod.
glenwo2
LINDY RUFF NEEDS VIAGRA!!
With all due respect (seriously), please do not speak for us, only yourself.
I believe that many of us want him to continue to improve and he has been albeit at a slower rate than we expected but then again having to deal with all the "mayhem" that has occurred this season with this team, it's a miracle he's still developing at all.
And I think it's safe to assume that a good percentage of us are confident that he will get better.
He's only 18 right now and to expect him to turn into McDavid in his first year at that age is absurd.
I think many of us bought too much into the Media hype, imo.
BTW, I have no idea what this "massive jump" you mention is, as that is subjective.
Emperoreddy
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Ty Smith got 0 games from some, so maybe people are just less patient now.
the Smith stuff was so silly. I was disappointed he didn’t make the team as well.
People forget these kids are babies and most players do not do what McDavid and Matthews were able to do.
Huh? Did you mean you'd rather Zajac center Wood and McLeod? Because I don't see how Hughes playing with a moron and a guy who hasn't really finished at any level would do him any good.
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Can we now? Because when I said Hughes had an average shot that he needed to work on heading into this season, this place roasted me.
Said it before the Devs drafted him. Said it after. The Patrick Kane comparisons were always a sad joke by lazy folks just looking to compare to another highly productive USDP player. Actually watching the tape, I said he reminded me most of Barzal.
That is still what I see. And that's fine with me, because that's ironically who I campaigned for in the 2015 draft. There is a chance Hughes can be a slightly better skater than him too, which would be impressive.
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People don’t remember the majority of what any individual posts here. So if you end up being right, there’s no one around to give you a medal.
Hughes will be fine unless you think any player has looked good this season other than Blackwood and Coleman. Everyone else has been average at best which is precisely when you don’t want to make a long term call on any player. No need to panic at the bottom.
Hughes will be fine unless you think any player has looked good this season other than Blackwood and Coleman. Everyone else has been average at best which is precisely when you don’t want to make a long term call on any player. No need to panic at the bottom.
Just look at Draisaitl. Piss poor first season, but over time has become one of the best in the league.
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