Confirmed Signing with Link: [NJD] F Ryan Schmelzer signs with the Devils (2 years, $775k AAV, two-way)

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Not a comment on his accomplishments, but why are the Devils signing 30-year-old career minor league players to NHL contracts?

Both this signing and the Bowers signing don't seem to put the team much closer to winning a Stamley Cup (or for thar matter the AHL's Calder Cup).

Rather, they seem to be bargain basement moves made to offset the exorbitant deals given to players like Hamilton, Meier, Bratt and Hughes.

Hard to see a strategy.
 

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Not a comment on his accomplishments, but why are the Devils signing 30-year-old career minor league players to NHL contracts?

Both this signing and the Bowers signing don't seem to put the team much closer to winning a Stamley Cup (or for thar matter the AHL's Calder Cup).

Rather, they seem to be bargain basement moves made to offset the exorbitant deals given to players like Hamilton, Meier, Bratt and Hughes.

Hard to see a strategy.
Jersey Fan 12 when NJD signs the captain of their AHL team to a 2 way deal
 

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Not a comment on his accomplishments, but why are the Devils signing 30-year-old career minor league players to NHL contracts?

Both this signing and the Bowers signing don't seem to put the team much closer to winning a Stamley Cup (or for thar matter the AHL's Calder Cup).

Rather, they seem to be bargain basement moves made to offset the exorbitant deals given to players like Hamilton, Meier, Bratt and Hughes.

Hard to see a strategy.

Because you want good veterans around your prospects in the AHL.
 

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Jersey Fan 12 when NJD signs the captain of their AHL team to a 2 way deal
looks like you missed the best part
Not a comment on his accomplishments, but why are the Devils signing 30-year-old career minor league players to NHL contracts?

Both this signing and the Bowers signing don't seem to put the team much closer to winning a Stamley Cup (or for thar matter the AHL's Calder Cup).

Rather, they seem to be bargain basement moves made to offset the exorbitant deals given to players like Hamilton, Meier, Bratt and Hughes.

Hard to see a strategy.
seems like he hasn't watched a game the last two seasons.:biglaugh:
 
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Not a comment on his accomplishments, but why are the Devils signing 30-year-old career minor league players to NHL contracts?

Both this signing and the Bowers signing don't seem to put the team much closer to winning a Stamley Cup (or for thar matter the AHL's Calder Cup).

Rather, they seem to be bargain basement moves made to offset the exorbitant deals given to players like Hamilton, Meier, Bratt and Hughes.

Hard to see a strategy.
The strategy is to reward AHLers with a higher salary, chances to make more if called up, and to not have a dog shit AHL team. This is kind of mind boggling that you think signing guys for Utica have anything to do with Hamilton, Meier, Bratt, and Hughes' deals (which are market value if not cheaper than market value for Hughes and Bratt).
 

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Who's giving Schmelzer this type of contract other than the Devils?

Much like with Hamilton and the others, the Devils outbid themselves.

Not great asset management.
 

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Is this your thing? Just to say absolutely moronic things to get people to respond?

Actually as a Devils' fan who lived through the glory days of the franchise, its hard to comprehend the tolerance some fans have for the way the team is now run.
 

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Actually as a Devils' fan who lived through the glory days of the franchise, its hard to comprehend the tolerance some fans have for the way the team is now run.
like there are not 32 teams in the league and each one of them tries their best to win.

each stanley cup title involves a lot of work and at least an equal amount of luck. finding the winning formula is not easy, as there is no proven one.
 

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like there are not 32 teams in the league and each one of them tries their best to win.

each stanley cup title involves a lot of work and at least an equal amount of luck. finding the winning formula is not easy, as there is no proven one

like there are not 32 teams in the league and each one of them tries their best to win.

each stanley cup title involves a lot of work and at least an equal amount of luck. finding the winning formula is not easy, as there is no proven one.


That isn't true at all. At the most in any of the pro sports leagues in America there are 8-10 franchises legitimately looking to compete for a championship.

The majority are merely looking at providing entertainment and maximizing their profit while minimizing costs.

Every season you can write off the majority of franchises while predicting which teams will compete for the Stanley Cup.

The Devils as they are now are currently in the mix with the Buffalos, Ottawas, and Arizona/Utahs of the league.

There is little reason to believe that changes anytime soon.
 

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That isn't true at all. At the most in any of the pro sports leagues in America there are 8-10 franchises legitimately looking to compete for a championship.

The majority are merely looking at providing entertainment and maximizing their profit while minimizing costs.

Every season you can write off the majority of franchises while predicting which teams will compete for the Stanley Cup.

The Devils as they are now are currently in the mix with the Buffalos, Ottawas, and Arizona/Utahs of the league.

There is little reason to believe that changes anytime soon.
and the others are rebuilding, accumulating assets or building towards being a competitor

you are a lost cause. you just look for simple solutions for complex problems. even if a management team makes the best possible decision every time for multiple years, it doesn't automatically result in a stanley cup title. winning a nhl title isn't as simple. life isn't as simple.

are you on the forbes top 100 list or a proven loser?
 
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That isn't true at all. At the most in any of the pro sports leagues in America there are 8-10 franchises legitimately looking to compete for a championship.

The majority are merely looking at providing entertainment and maximizing their profit while minimizing costs.

Every season you can write off the majority of franchises while predicting which teams will compete for the Stanley Cup.

The Devils as they are now are currently in the mix with the Buffalos, Ottawas, and Arizona/Utahs of the league.

There is little reason to believe that changes anytime soon.
Except the prior season they were one of the best teams in the league and won a seven game playoff round against their biggest rivals. This season they suffered with massive injuries and the goaltending did them no favors for most of the season. Despite all that they were still an NHL 500 team so much better than they were before they turned the corner. It's a work in progress and they are far from perfect but at least they look like they should improve next season as opposed to just get one year older with an aging core or have problems keeping players with cap problems. Let's see how it plays out. All you can really say right now is they weren't good last season. That's one competitive cycle. Any team can struggle for a season.
 

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Except the prior season they were one of the best teams in the league and won a seven game playoff round against their biggest rivals. This season they suffered with massive injuries and the goaltending did them no favors for most of the season. Despite all that they were still an NHL 500 team so much better than they were before they turned the corner. It's a work in progress and they are far from perfect but at least they look like they should improve next season as opposed to just get one year older with an aging core or have problems keeping players with cap problems. Let's see how it plays out. All you can really say right now is they weren't good last season. That's one competitive cycle. Any team can struggle for a season.

Or, far more likely, 2022-23 was a mirage in which for much of the year they were taken lightly (often facing backup goalies) and in the playoffs the Devils had the good fortune of facing a team that had even less hardness.
 

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Or, far more likely, 2022-23 was a mirage in which for much of the year they were taken lightly (often facing backup goalies) and in the playoffs the Devils had the good fortune of facing a team that had even less hardness.
Well we will see. My thought is that in a season where everything went wrong and the team managed to be NHL 500 suggests they should bounce back with a reasonably healthy season from their best players but how far they bounce back will be the question. They still have two defenders that are currently 20 years old playing major roles. Just focusing on the gloom and doom aspects is oversimplified as I see it. Thr team has multiple issues to contend with and each can have a separate and discreet impact. For example, post TDL thr goaltending was actually ok. They lost games down the stretch because they were broken and had a coach that wasn’t a good fit post Ruff but the games looked different to me. They weren’t down 1-0 after three minutes every game. They suffered with the departure of McLeod. Can they find a third competent center? Hopefully and that’s one player so it’s probably doable. They will get back Hamilton next season. Maybe it’s a disaster but more likely it’s better than this season.
 

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My fault for taking a thread about Ryan Schmelzer off topic. Hope you're right.


Well we will see. My thought is that in a season where everything went wrong and the team managed to be NHL 500 suggests they should bounce back with a reasonably healthy season from their best players but how far they bounce back will be the question. They still have two defenders that are currently 20 years old playing major roles. Just focusing on the gloom and doom aspects is oversimplified as I see it. Thr team has multiple issues to contend with and each can have a separate and discreet impact. For example, post TDL thr goaltending was actually ok. They lost games down the stretch because they were broken and had a coach that wasn’t a good fit post Ruff but the games looked different to me. They weren’t down 1-0 after three minutes every game. They suffered with the departure of McLeod. Can they find a third competent center? Hopefully and that’s one player so it’s probably doable. They will get back Hamilton next season. Maybe it’s a disaster but more likely it’s better than this season.
 
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