Devils 2019-20 offseason team discussion (news and notes)

[TrufleShufle]

Depends who is on the market, you may get a useful but overpriced player along with a pick so the other team can acquire the player of their choice.

Maybe, but that is a stretch, typically at the deadline contenders are picking up guys with one year left on their contract and $ retained or not because it all doesn't count against the cap and they can afford to fit them for the rest of the year.

Either way, I'm happy with where we are, if we add another player who helps and go into the season with out an extra dollar, I'll still be fine with it.

 

[Classic Devil]

Anybody interested in a slightly used Shattenkirk?

No.

 

[aboriginal]

Yeah no

 

[TrufleShufle]

Anybody interested in a slightly used Shattenkirk?

Probably, but hopefully nobody who is associated with the Devils.

 

[Billdo]

Yes, but we're in more cap trouble next year than this. We'd want to have as much salary count for THIS year as possible.

Crazy how we've gone from too much cap room to "cap trouble next year" in 3 months

 

[FooteBahl]

As I said, nothing would carry over into next season unless it exceeds the 7.5% cushion over the upper limit. Which is $6,112,500 over the $81.5 million. So the Devils would have to exceed $87,612,500 for it to carry over into next season. About a 0% chance that happens.

Are you sure? They way I'm reading it, is that a team is allowed to go over the cap by 7.5% to cover performance bonuses, but whatever amount you go over the cap by is deducted from the next year. Were ALLOWED to go up to 87.6 million, but we eventually have to pay the piper...its not free space.

 

[Hisch13r]

Believe it or not, we're capped out. ~$2.5 million for Zacha's new contract and $5.6 million for the performance bonuses that Jack and Nico could hit. That's a little over $8 million and we're currently $8.7 under the cap.

I've always assume that brining in Gardiner would result in a Vatanen move

 

[Blackjack]

I've always assume that brining in Gardiner would result in a Vatanen move

1. I'm starting to think that Gardiner is waiting for Marner's deal to get done, and then will take whatever Toronto has left in its cap.

2. No one has $4 million in cap space to take Vatanen.

 

[Hisch13r]

1. I'm starting to think that Gardiner is waiting for Marner's deal to get done, and then will take whatever Toronto has left in its cap.

2. No one has $4 million in cap space to take Vatanen.

It was reported he has a handshake deal with a team that first needs to move a Dman. I'm pretty sure it's Buffalo though trying to move Risto because he knows there is no chance to go back to Toronto.

There are definitely some teams that could take Vatanen

 

[SYWTom]

I disagree on spending up to the cap, at trade deadline cap space is very valuable, especially recovering draft picks.

Really hope we can pick up a 2nd or 3rd to replace what we’ve moved out this offseason. Finding good young players to play on ELC’s is gonna be important in 3-4 years.

 

[Nubmer6]

Really hope we can pick up a 2nd or 3rd to replace what we’ve moved out this offseason. Finding good young players to play on ELC’s is gonna be important in 3-4 years.

I'm not worried about it as long as we still have our 6th rounders

 

[Billdo]

FEATURE: Ty Smith Receiving Mentorship From Opposition

Interesting

 

[Sheros expletives]

FEATURE: Ty Smith Receiving Mentorship From Opposition

Interesting

Smith cocain-addiction confirmed

 

[JimEIV]

Yeah no

I didn't realize that you were posting again. Good to see you.

 

[MartyOwns]

Anybody interested in a slightly used Shattenkirk?

we already have a slightly used, incredibly bald defenseman. don’t need another

 

[Tundra]

Cap situation is fine going forward. Ray has options to walk away from greene, zajac and palmieri if he wants to free up cap dollars over the next two years. Thats at least 15 million dollars.

 

[Nubmer6]

Cap situation is fine going forward. Ray has options to walk away from greene, zajac and palmieri if he wants to free up cap dollars over the next two years. Thats at least 15 million dollars.

Actually, that's counting on letting Greene go. Vatanen would probably be the cap casualty next year if needed.

 

[Call Me Al]

even if greene comes back he will be taking a pay cut, and i doubt vatanen comes back they might be hoping walsh is ready for the 3rd pairing or carrick develops enough to be trusted

 

[devilsblood]

even if greene comes back he will be taking a pay cut, and i doubt vatanen comes back they might be hoping walsh is ready for the 3rd pairing or carrick develops enough to be trusted

Even this year I would not have an issue with Carrick on the 3rd pair.

Vat's is wonderful insurance to have around, and there is the option of him on 1st pair lhd, but he's going to be severely underutilized as a 3rd pairing guy.

 

[Oneiro]

We've got so many young bottom six forwards that, during next summer, a trade will have to be made anyway.

 

[devilsblood]

Really hope we can pick up a 2nd or 3rd to replace what we’ve moved out this offseason. Finding good young players to play on ELC’s is gonna be important in 3-4 years.

We've had so many draft picks in recent years that I'm not that worried about it.

Even having high picks who turn into merely useful players like Zacha and McCleod will be pretty helpful in filling out the roster even though they are not on their elc's.

 

[Hisch13r]

Even this year I would not have an issue with Carrick on the 3rd pair.

Vat's is wonderful insurance to have around, and there is the option of him on 1st pair lhd, but he's going to be severely underutilized as a 3rd pairing guy.

I don't think we're going to have a traditional 1st, 2nd and 3rd pairing. PK will play the most and I could see him playing with different guys at points. The 2nd and 3rd pairs will probably end up with similar ice time to each other

 

[Oneiro]

I'm curious to see what the Zacha number is. Shero seems to have max leverage.

 

[TrufleShufle]

I really can't see one of Vats, Subban, or Sevs playing bottom pairing minutes, that would seem like a waste for all. Then the whole switch them to the other side thought, then sit who? or switch an LD to RD as well?

I'm not saying I see a trade, but I can't even guess how this is going to play out.

 

[RangerDoggo]

Someone wrote an article for The Athletic speculating that the ongoing Mitch Marner fiasco is also having a reverberating effect on other big-name RFAs, like Tkachuk, Laine, Rantanen, McAvoy, Point, Konecny, etc. As in, many of them won’t sign until Mitch does. I have three opinions about this:

1. Kyle Dubas and Paul Marner are ruining this for everyone else.
2. The next CBA absolutely needs to address a reduction in the age of UFA eligibility. That’s going to be key in MLB. Instead the issue of note is escrow and nobody gives a shit about the nitty-gritty about that besides lawyers.
3. I am so, so glad that we’re not doing this nonsense with Hischier this offseason.