How about throwing in a bunch of undersized, offensively minded defensemen and then complaining that they can't play D?
Devils 2018-19 team discussion (news and notes) - part XVII
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Are you kidding me? If they don't throw in Boeser we'd be getting ripped off.
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No wonder Hynes is pissed.
If Stone-Hands is making fancy goals, then your Defense REALLY sucks!
agreed thats just people that don't know a thing about hockey
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As someone who absolutely hated the Lovejoy deal, I would say the Devils came out even if not slightly ahead. It's not his fault he was put on a top pair with a declining Andy Greene in his first season here. I suspect that Butcher has been carrying him during the last year and a half, but there is value to be had in crushing your easy matchups and being a very good player on PK1.
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Nope, still embarassed
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It can't possibly be your system, John. No way, no how.
When do one of these players snap and tell him to f*** off. None of these guys have played man to man since midgets and even then, they aren't really playing man to man. They know they're the ONLY team in the league playing this system and they KNOW it doesn't work.
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It can't possibly be your system, John. No way, no how.
When do one of these players snap and tell him to f*** off. None of these guys have played man to man since midgets and even then, they aren't really playing man to man. They know they're the ONLY team in the league playing this system and they KNOW it doesn't work.
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And if it was a good system then we would see teams using it or taking pieces from it.
The Devils were one of the early PP adopters of the drop pass last year and it was so effective most teams were using it at times by seasons end.
I haven’t seen one team adapt any piece of the Devils hybrid man/zone system which leads me to believe the rest of the league thinks it is awful.
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It can't possibly be your system, John. No way, no how.
When do one of these players snap and tell him to **** off. None of these guys have played man to man since midgets and even then, they aren't really playing man to man. They know they're the ONLY team in the league playing this system and they KNOW it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]
Who was it fired a puck at Julien once - Niedermeyer maybe? But anyway Hynes was probably right.
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Yeah really, even if Lovejoy was as bad as his detractors claim the guy got $2.5 million for 3 years, that's basically a pittance. Barely top four D money. The problem with him is he was barely a top four D, getting paid like barely a top four D but getting played like a top two D his first year cause the rest of the D sucked. The last two years he's played borderline top four D minutes and been better.
You could say Clowe was a horrible contract too except for the IR get out of jail free card. But everyone knew that was a sketchy contract when it was signed.
What do you mean the 'next two' lol...how about the last two
Do agree with the general point though, there is a bias here against older, stay-at-home guys.
There is also a bias against Damon severson who is the opposite of that. The D has played badly this year so everyone is getting hate. Ripping on Lovejoy as if we gave him a great contract is nuts, He makes 4-5 D money on a team with 15 mill in cap space. I don't like him because he is almost useless with the puck but it's not like he was a big ticket player, he's certainly better than Karl Alzner who actually was a big ticket guy.
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Good little piece on Sal, never realized how much he had to overcome the odds and doubters to even get a shot at the NHL
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That was a good read. I like Sal so much more than when Johnny Mac was doing the commentary.
Yes it is time to move on from Lovejoy but calling him a ‘disgrace of a player’ is a joke and that’s what I called him out on.
Also, judging from the 0 likes on that post to my 10 and no one else agreeing with it doesn’t correspond to ‘many agree’ that he is a disgrace of a player.
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New Jersey GM Ray Shero was aggressive with Brian Boyle, and it sounds like he’s done the same with Marcus Johansson. I’ve heard Columbus, Edmonton, San Jose and Vancouver as teams who have checked in. Possibly Washington, too, since they know him.
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I have never liked Lovejoy, but he is not a "disgrace of a player." That's just a disrespectful thing to say about someone who is at least an nhl caliber D man. Tom Wilson is a disgrace of a player.
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I can understand going back to Kinkaid with stats like that. Perhaps they're looking to gauge his current mindset as well if they think there's a possibility to trade him before the deadline also. Even if they don't look to trade him, they'll want to give him some starts down the stretch also to help him from a contract side assuming they'll let him walk.
I know we've gone back and forth on goaltending for all eternity, and it won't be the most historical tenure here by a long shot, but I'll miss Keith wherever he goes. He's a good dude, great teammate and helped backstop us to our first playoff berth in half a decade last year on his incredible run. Don't know where things will go for him from here, but as long as he's a Devil I hope he ends his tenure here strong.
I know we've gone back and forth on goaltending for all eternity, and it won't be the most historical tenure here by a long shot, but I'll miss Keith wherever he goes. He's a good dude, great teammate and helped backstop us to our first playoff berth in half a decade last year on his incredible run. Don't know where things will go for him from here, but as long as he's a Devil I hope he ends his tenure here strong.
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Who's opinion is it that if someone calls a player a "disgrace" is a joke? I can only assume you are a lawyer to make that statement. Are you a lawyer?
As for the number of likes does not make your case as there are more negative posts to Lovejoy's play throughout this forum.
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it's not like we're trying to win and make playoffs honestly. let him play and rebound a little
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Lovejoy is not great and gets many comments for his play, calling him a disgrace is a bit much. You can not like a player and also not think he's a disgrace. The first part of your argument is a joke and it's not a good one.
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By every metric Lovejoy is a good 3rd pairing defenseman. To think otherwise is factually incorrect, plain and simple.
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Bingo. Calling him a disgrace just shows how out to lunch some people actually are with regard to the players.
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