Devils 2017-18 team discussion (player news and notes) VIII - Postseason Edition

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  1. DerekDevils30

    DerekDevils30 Registered User

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    That's the biggest thing I've noticed. He hasn't pushed the pace at all this series and did so sparingly since the acquisition.
     
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    Sadly it seems that despite his physical skills for some reason he just isn’t a stylistic fit on this team. Not sure if it is lack of chemistry or they have asked him to play differently or what. Someone alluded to Grabner being good in a zone defensive scheme while NJ plays more aggressively at forward. Shame really. On paper I can see why he appealed to Shero.
     
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  3. None Shall Pass

    None Shall Pass snoᴉɔᴉlǝp

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    Grabner's been a disappointment.
     
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  4. MartyOwns

    MartyOwns i’ll ask daneyko

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    last 5 games

    staff- 0g 3a +3
    grab- 0g 1a -3

    back to you- what is grabner providing?
     
  5. Emperoreddy

    Emperoreddy Show me what you got

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    Grabner deserves to sit. I would have put Gibbons back in, but Grabs deserves a seat.
     
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    Devils Dominion Need a 1LD

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    It's why a lot of us didn't like the trade when it was announced, didn't think he would be a good fit.
     
  7. My3Sons

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    I didn't watch him play before he got to NJ. What did you see or not see that suggested a fit issue to you? That's not provocative, that's a real question - as noted, I didn't watch him, but understood why, on paper, he might have looked attractive and would like to hear the other view point.
     
  8. OmNomNom

    OmNomNom Nico Nico Nii~~~

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    none of us thought he'd be THIS bad though. he theoretically should've fit.
     
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  9. kyle evs48

    kyle evs48 Devilish Boy Grin

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    I think it's largely because this board has a problem with trading any prospect or young player.

    I don't think anybody saw Grabner being this bad.
     
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    Lol. Damon Severson certainly WILL be a better player than John Moore, he just isn't right now.

    You realize, that no matter what your lofty opinion is, he's still the only defenseman we have that can even skate with TBL. I'm tired of watching Vatanan get caught from behind and getting his stick lifted. Butcher at least is shifty, but outside of that not one of our Dmen can keep up with these guys.

    I'm no John Moore lover, not by a long shot - but I'm just not seeing the 'horrendous' play that you are talking about.
     
  11. Cult of Hynes

    Cult of Hynes Hynes is never wrong.

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    He is currently a better player than Moore. Go look at the stats k? Thanks.
     
  12. MartyOwns

    MartyOwns i’ll ask daneyko

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    and this is exactly why. there is a very real possibility that we get swept, grabner and maroon walk, and it was all for nothing. if you want to be a buyer at the deadline, that's fine. but to acquire 2 players that play the same position when we have much bigger holes to fill didn't make sense then, and it doesn't make sense now.
     
  13. Emperoreddy

    Emperoreddy Show me what you got

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    But it wasn’t all for nothing. The goal was to make the playoffs.
     
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    TheUnseenHand Yuri = Waifu

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    I actually agree with this. This experience is invaluable.
     
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    MartyOwns i’ll ask daneyko

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    if the goal was to make the playoffs, then surely we should have traded for a defenseman. or a goalie. not 2 left wings. but putting that aside for a moment-

    let's say hypothetically that the rangers draft a severson-ish type defensive prospect with our pick next year. or even merrill-ish. would you rather have that prospect, or have the good timey playoff feels/get swept in the first round?
     
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    Grabner was a logical trade that just isn’t working out.

    I had no problem with the deal, it just isn’t working out. As was already said, I don’t think anyone saw him being this bad. He’s been the reincarnation of Jacob Josefson, if Josefson were to be caught in his end so much, which he never really was. At least not as a Devil, but he was an eyesore with the Sabres.
     
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  17. glenwo2

    glenwo2 BRATT IS BETTER THAN STAFFORD!!!

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    Forget Santini...


    How about #FREEBRATT? :thumbd::thumbd::thumbd:


    Hopefully he'll get that opportunity in Game 4 but with our Head Coach? Not holding my breath.



    So is :

    Boyle
    LoveJoy
    Moore
    Severson


    Hell....even Hall and Hischier(as much as we love 'em) have been defensive liabilities AT TIMES(keyword you provided).

    Still can't or probably will never understand Hynes outright refusal to throw Bratt out there. I've heard explanations(ie assumptions) by some here but the only person who knows the real reason is bald and is behind the bench alongside Tweedle-Dee(Nasreddine) and Tweedle-Dumb(Ward).
     
  18. TheUnseenHand

    TheUnseenHand Yuri = Waifu

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    Early as usual, but ready to go!

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    Naw, I'll watch the games, thanks. They are played on the ice, not a spreadsheet.
     
  20. kyle evs48

    kyle evs48 Devilish Boy Grin

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    It's also possible that we go on a run. There's only one way to find out.

    I find it hard to believe that Shero would pass up a sensible deal for a team need, so I'm inclined to believe that there was no sensible deal for a defenseman. He felt the team earned help, and he got them two players he and his staff thought would help. I have no problem with that.
     
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  21. glenwo2

    glenwo2 BRATT IS BETTER THAN STAFFORD!!!

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    So far...Maroon has helped while Grabs has been a bust.
     
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    Is Muller really better than Santini?
     
  23. Davegarri

    Davegarri Nico <3

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    Take it for what it's worth, but last night I sat next to a guy who played in the ECHL and coaches hockey in north jersey. He was saying he knows John Carlson's brother and plays hockey with him. He said he has talked to his brother about the situation in Washington and his brother can't see him staying there.

    Does that mean he wants to come here? Who knows. But with his family being here or whatever he definitely could have an interest.

    Take it with a grain of salt though because it was literally the first time I ever met the guy who told me this so who knows if it's true lol
     
  24. vtdevils2k

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    I've seen this brought up other places as well. It be nice to have someone "come home" like Palms did. Who knows if it is true, but I would love to see this happen. The Devils are headed in the right direction.

    Fairly confident Shero knows we need a couple upgrades on defense to get to where we all want to go
     
  25. MartyOwns

    MartyOwns i’ll ask daneyko

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    it's been explained to you many, many times. bratt has played like garbage over the last 2 months and he doesn't deserve (or need) to be in there
     
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