Prospect Info: Detroit Red Wings Prospect Talk 2018-19: The Playoff Edition

[Christien]

Says who?

Not me, even though he was with Detroit for a big majority of the year. What’s the rookie rule anyways? Like under 70 games?

 

[Christien]

 

[NickH8]

Man, the numbers don't do how good he looked justice. Thank god for awood40.

 

[GreatGordie9]

Zadina, may not be skating at all at the development camp as he strained a hamstring during off season training.

 

[newfy]

Man, the numbers don't do how good he looked justice. Thank god for awood40.

I saw someone post it on here before but cant find it anymore. Essentially, Zadina had ridiculously low secondary assists. Like he averaged one every 5 games or so in the season. His primary production was basically all his production.

When he was being compared to others in the past's primary production he looked really, really good.

 

[obey86]

Zadina looked good during his short NHL stint, excited to see him more next season.

 

[Inf4mous0ne]

Do you guys think Zadina makes the team this season? Looking at him for my fantasy draft

 

[NickH8]

Do you guys think Zadina makes the team this season? Looking at him for my fantasy draft

Really depends on his camp/pre-season. If he makes it it's going to be in a top 6 spot.

 

[Larkin2AA]

Part way through, but I love his hustle in all aspects of the game. I think he could gain a lot more speed through the neutral zone if he stops the side-to-side skating, he needs to work on that. His zone entry is good and he does a great job of keeping/getting rid of the puck when necessary.

Oh and what a save vs. Russia on the empty net! I'll keep watching.

 

[wingsnut19]

Man, the numbers don't do how good he looked justice. Thank god for awood40.

Isn't that the nature of a highlight real? You're seeing him at his best moments.

 

[The Zermanator]

Isn't that the nature of a highlight real? You're seeing him at his best moments.

Pretty impressive for an 18 yr old rookie playing against men to have a 30 minute highlight reel.

 

[Christien]

Nice little article on Zadina, turns out he will stay in Detroit and train this summer. He met with SY too.
LINK

Zadina said he has met with new general manager Steve Yzerman about expectations going forward.
"He talked to me a couple times about what I gotta do better and where I have to improve my game, improve myself as an athlete," Zadina said. "That's one of the reasons why I'm staying here and I do believe that they make me a better athlete and then help me for the season."
The young forward plans to go home to the Czech Republic for a brief visit and then return to Detroit to train for the rest of the summer.
"They told me to just have a good summer and be ready for the next season because we want you as a member of the Detroit Red Wings," Zadina said. "I said I'll do anything for it so that's the reason why I'm staying here and I believe that they can help and make me a better athlete and make the team."
Zadina wanted to make the Red Wings out of training camp last year.
Although that did not happen, he did get a small taste and feels he is ready to show that he is ready for the show.
"I'll go to the training camp with the mindset to make the first team," Zadina said. "I don't think I gotta show them something, I just think I gotta go there and show them myself, that's what I know the best. I don't act like someone else, I just want to be there as Filip Zadina. They drafted me as a goal scorer and that's what I got to focus on. That's probably how I want to be there in the training camp."

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

I saw someone post it on here before but cant find it anymore. Essentially, Zadina had ridiculously low secondary assists. Like he averaged one every 5 games or so in the season. His primary production was basically all his production.

When he was being compared to others in the past's primary production he looked really, really good.

Here is what all player's from 2010 to 2019 who played their 19 year old season in the AHL had point production wise - it's sorted by P1/GP:

Name	Season	Pos	Team	Age	GP	G/GP	A1/GP	A2/GP	P1/GP	P/GP
Mikko Rantanen	2015-2016	LW	SA	18.878	52	0.46	0.42	0.27	0.88	1.15
William Nylander	2015-2016	C	TOR	19.373	38	0.47	0.39	0.32	0.87	1.18
Jakub Vrana	2015-2016	LW	HER	19.546	36	0.44	0.25	0.25	0.69	0.94
Kyle Palmieri	2010-2011	RW	SYR	19.62	62	0.47	0.23	0.13	0.69	0.82
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	2012-2013	C	OKC	19.428	19	0.42	0.26	0.37	0.68	1.05
Christian Fischer	2016-2017	RW	TUC	19.42	57	0.35	0.3	0.18	0.65	0.82
Martin Necas	2018-2019	C	CHA	19.666	64	0.25	0.3	0.27	0.55	0.81
Kevin Fiala	2015-2016	LW	MIL	19.149	66	0.27	0.27	0.21	0.55	0.76
Filip Forsberg	2013-2014	RW	MIL	19.091	47	0.32	0.23	0.17	0.55	0.72
Vladislav Kamenev	2015-2016	C	MIL	19.091	57	0.26	0.26	0.12	0.53	0.65
Jack Roslovic	2016-2017	C	MB	19.628	65	0.2	0.28	0.26	0.48	0.74
Kasperi Kapanen	2015-2016	RW	TOR	19.146	44	0.2	0.27	0.09	0.48	0.57
Filip Zadina	2018-2019	RW	GR	18.801	59	0.27	0.2	0.12	0.47	0.59
Sonny Milano	2015-2016	LW	LE	19.343	54	0.26	0.2	0.11	0.46	0.57
Janne Kuokkanen	2017-2018	C	CHA	19.31	60	0.18	0.27	0.22	0.45	0.67
Jeremy Morin	2010-2011	RW	RFD	19.417	22	0.36	0.09	0.09	0.45	0.55
Brandon Pirri	2010-2011	C	RFD	19.434	70	0.17	0.27	0.17	0.44	0.61
Jacob Josefson	2010-2011	C	ALB	19.54	18	0.17	0.28	0.22	0.44	0.67
Eeli Tolvanen	2018-2019	F	MIL	19.401	58	0.26	0.17	0.17	0.43	0.6
J.T. Miller	2012-2013	C	CT	19.508	42	0.19	0.19	0.17	0.38	0.55
Kristian Vesalainen	2018-2019	LW	MB	19.291	22	0.18	0.18	0.23	0.36	0.59
Adrian Kempe	2015-2016	LW	ONT	19.004	55	0.2	0.16	0.15	0.36	0.51
Martin Kaut	2018-2019	RW	COL	18.955	63	0.19	0.16	0.06	0.35	0.41
Mika Zibanejad	2012-2013	C	BNG	19.412	23	0.17	0.17	0.13	0.35	0.48
Stefan Matteau	2013-2014	C	ALB	19.56	67	0.19	0.13	0.06	0.33	0.39
Denis Gurianov	2016-2017	RW	TEX	19.275	57	0.21	0.11	0.16	0.32	0.47
Tomas Jurco	2012-2013	LW	GR	19.716	74	0.19	0.12	0.07	0.31	0.38
Klim Kostin	2018-2019	RW	SA	19.365	66	0.15	0.14	0.08	0.29	0.36
Lias Andersson	2017-2018	C	HFD	18.924	25	0.2	0.08	0.28	0.28	0.56
Jacob de la Rose	2014-2015	C	HAM	19.324	37	0.16	0.11	0.03	0.27	0.3
Alexander Avtsin	2010-2011	RW	HAM	19.494	58	0.09	0.16	0.1	0.24	0.34
Alexander Nylander	2017-2018	RW	RCH	19.54	51	0.16	0.06	0.31	0.22	0.53
William Carrier	2014-2015	LW	RCH	19.738	63	0.11	0.11	0.11	0.22	0.33
Nathan Walker	2013-2014	LW	HER	19.603	43	0.12	0.09	0.05	0.21	0.26
Jerry D'Amigo	2010-2011	LW	TOR	19.571	43	0.12	0.09	0.14	0.21	0.35
Tage Thompson	2016-2017	C	CHI	18.878	16	0.06	0.06	0	0.12	0.12
Nicklas Jensen	2012-2013	LW	CHI	19.529	20	0.1	0	0.1	0.1	0.2
Dominik Uher	2012-2013	LW	WBS	19.707	53	0.08	0.02	0.04	0.09	0.13

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

So while Zadina did have an extremely small number of secondary assists his overall level of scoring was still relatively middle of the road. I've bolded the players with the seasons that are most comparable to Zadina. The players around him are for the most part decent middle sixers, but not much more than that if they're even in the NHL.

The good news is that Zadina does have age on his side as he was one of the youngest 19 year olds in this time period and it would be interesting to see what his 2nd half numbers were compared to the 1st half as age does matter. Another thing to consider is this is just a raw numbers comparison, there has been no adjustment made for league scoring level, a comparison of team scoring levels, or if the points were scored at ES vs PP. That being said, the next season will be telling for what Zadina's true upside is and whether he projects to be just a 2nd line forward or if he truly has elite upside.

 

[Christien]

Tough break after a strong development camp

 

[Lampedampe]

Who did he collide with?

 

[lidstromiscool]

That's brutal, he was going to be one of the go to guys for Union this year, hope he can make a full recovery

 

[Konnan511]

Ready to feel old Bros and Brodettes?

 

[Frk It]

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

Good for him, I've been critical of the 2017 draft class, but I'm happy to see him get a contract. He must have made a good impression in the SJ development camp and he was rewarded for it.

 

[FireBird71]

Red Wings Draft Review Show was on tonight...haven’t seen it on YouTube yet..was pretty good

 

[lilidk]

I hoped he will replace Gleny one day

 

[obey86]

I hoped he will replace Gleny one day

He's no longer on the Red Wings...

 

[Winger98]

He's no longer on the Red Wings...

And yet @lilidk can still say he had hoped the guy was going to replace Glendening some day.

 

[Christien]

Here's an article on Tyutyayev if anyone is interested

NOT A WORD ABOUT HOCKEY. KIRILL TYUTYAYEV

Also, I think Kirill used to attend Datsyuk's hockey school

 

[obey86]

And yet @lilidk can still say he had hoped the guy was going to replace Glendening some day.

He said will, not would.