Proposal: Detroit (Mantha) - Vegas (Futures)

[Hatter of the Beach]

Unsure of Vegas's needs so feel free to call me out if they're already winger heavy, but I think Mantha could look good flanking a center with Tuch on the other side. I think it is fair to say Mantha has been underwhelming this year but still has great talent and likely would be motivated on a playoff team. Detroit does it because it addresses their most glaring prospect pool need and gets them a player more along with their timeline. At this point Wings and Yzerman know that Larkin will be the vets by the time we're good again, not the torch carriers.

Vegas gets - Anthony Mantha, Wings 4th round pick

Wings get one of two packages -
A: Glass and Vegas 3rd

or...

B: Krebs and a 2nd


Feel free to rip it apart, just toying with some ideas.

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[Debrincat93]

we're not adding a 4th.

make it Glass and a second and ill drive him to the airport.

 

[McJedi]

There is this thing called the salary cap. It’s real. And Vegas is up against it. Your proposal makes zero sense in the real world where a nhl team has to be cap compliant. Manthas deal would put them way over the cap.

 

[CupInSIX]

Doesn't make any sense for Vegas. They need their young Cs on ELCs.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

There is this thing called the salary cap. It’s real. And Vegas is up against it. Your proposal is makes zero sense in the real world where a nhl team has to be cap compliant. Manthas deal would put them way over the cap.

No need for sass, I already said I was just spit balling a 2am idea without doing much research. Though it was fun reading your post with a ridiculously nerdy and pedantic sounding voice in my head

 

[Mrfenn92]

Vegas says no

 

[TS Quint]

There is this thing called the salary cap. It’s real. And Vegas is up against it. Your proposal is makes zero sense in the real world where a nhl team has to be cap compliant. Manthas deal would put them way over the cap.

Many things can happen to become cap compliant. Just like when the Leafs, Lightning etc are never going to figure out the cap every off season they some how do.

You should understand that cap compliance isn't the thing that is holding this trade back from happening. The main problem is that this is a FANTASY TRADE BOARD.

 

[CupInSIX]

Many things can happen to become cap compliant. Just like when the Leafs, Lightning etc are never going to figure out the cap every off season they some how do.

You should understand that cap compliance isn't the thing that is holding this trade back from happening. The main problem is that this is a FANTASY TRADE BOARD.

They're not moving mountains to add another winger this season. Zero interest considering the cost.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

So what cap casualty and/or dump(s) would VGK need to move out/back to DET to facilitate? It's all speculation, we're all Armchair GM's, give it a go...

 

[Pia8988]

Wing is the last place vegas needs to ads to.
Stone
Tuch
Smith
Patches
Marchessault

 

[The Moose is Loose]

No need for sass, I already said I was just spit balling a 2am idea without doing much research. Though it was fun reading your post with a ridiculously nerdy and pedantic sounding voice in my head

Whats so nerdy and pedantic about being aware and realistic?

It would have taken 30 seconds to check Capfriendly to know Vegas would have to send a large contract back

 

[The Duck Knight]

The only deal I could see between these teams is Bobby for a 3rd/4th at the deadline.

I think Vegas could use a rental 3rd line wing ideally pushing Reaves out of the lineup altogether.

 

[BStinson]

So what cap casualty and/or dump(s) would VGK need to move out/back to DET to facilitate? It's all speculation, we're all Armchair GM's, give it a go...

There really isn't a cap dump on VGK and wing isn't really a need for them except a third liner like Bobby Ryan for a second round pick.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

I’m not ready to give up on Mantha yet and for futures?

I don’t know if I’d do that

 

[CupInSIX]

There really isn't a cap dump on VGK and wing isn't really a need for them except a third liner like Bobby Ryan for a second round pick.

These proposals are ridiculous.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Unsure of Vegas's needs so feel free to call me out if they're already winger heavy, but I think Mantha could look good flanking a center with Tuch on the other side. I think it is fair to say Mantha has been underwhelming this year but still has great talent and likely would be motivated on a playoff team. Detroit does it because it addresses their most glaring prospect pool need and gets them a player more along with their timeline. At this point Wings and Yzerman know that Larkin will be the vets by the time we're good again, not the torch carriers.

Vegas gets - Anthony Mantha, Wings 4th round pick

Wings get one of two packages -
A: Glass and Vegas 3rd

or...

B: Krebs and a 2nd


Feel free to rip it apart, just toying with some ideas.

If Vegas had the cap space, they would be seeking a C, not a winger. Since there is no cap space, they are playing with what they've got.

And if Vegas WERE looking for a winger, Glass or Krebs wouldn't be on the table.

I like Mantha, though.

 

[DarthProbert]

If anything, Detroit should offer something for Tuch. Vegas is paying him too much to play on the 3rd line.

 

[The Duck Knight]

If anything, Detroit should offer something for Tuch. Vegas is paying him too much to play on the 3rd line.

Unless a bonafide #1 center becomes available I doubt Vegas will even think about moving Tuch. From all reports they shot down any teams trying to pry Tuch or Smith this summer. The guys they were willing to listen on were Pacioretty and Marchessault.

Tuch IMO has been their 2nd best winger so far after Stone. He got bumped up to the top line with Stone a couple of games ago.

 

[AKL]

we're not adding a 4th.

make it Glass and a second and ill drive him to the airport.

You're not getting either of those returns for Mantha anyway, but I'm dumbfounded as to why you'd draw the line at a 4th round pick.

 

[BStinson]

These proposals are ridiculous.

He'll probably return a second or third round pick + based on how he's played and recent TDL trades. Will that be VGK? Who knows but someone will pony up that second or third round pick for depth scoring.

 

[CupInSIX]

He'll probably return a second or third round pick + based on how he's played and recent TDL trades. Will that be VGK? Who knows but someone will pony up that second or third round pick for depth scoring.

I'm happy for him but if this were a regular regular season, 1 1/2 months in would be mid-November so it's a bit of a small sample size. If he's still going strong at the deadline then he should fetch a 3rd or a conditional 2nd.

As far as Vegas goes I'd be fine with keeping Roy in the top 9. Glendenning at 50% for a 4th would be my target from the Wings (unless Danault is available).

 

[BStinson]

I'm happy for him but if this were a regular regular season, 1 1/2 months in would be mid-November so it's a bit of a small sample size. If he's still going strong at the deadline then he should fetch a 3rd or a conditional 2nd.

As far as Vegas goes I'd be fine with keeping Roy in the top 9. Glendenning at 50% for a 4th would be my target.

If Glendening comes to VGK, I know it sounds weird but I'm getting a jersey (I live in Summerlin currently). If they were moved I'm hoping for a second for Ryan and a third for Glendening. I think Glendening is that player that GMs just love because it's old school hockey.

 

[Debrincat93]

You're not getting either of those returns for Mantha anyway, but I'm dumbfounded as to why you'd draw the line at a 4th round pick.

because it would make no sense to add a pick... not that difficult to understand.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

So a club heavy on the wing and light at centre moves a centre for a winger and enters cap hell?

Makes sense, fax the paperwork