Proposal: Detroit and Carolina BLOCKBUSTER

[Oddbob]

And yet you still have the time to comment and be defensive about the whole thing.

Well, he did run down our player, regardless of being a Sabres fan. That and commenting takes less time, then reviewing history and commenting.

 

[sheriff bart]

NHL made sure Carolina got 2oa for the reason. They are not trading it

That was supposed to be a secret.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Yet his career stars are almost identical to Sam Reinharts. Replace him in this offer with Sam and you will see how dumb of an offer it is. Svech is going to be better than both of them.

I never said the trade offer was good
I just said that Larkin is not overrated.

 

[Viqsi]

That was supposed to be a secret.

I don't see how that can go on. I mean, c'mon. Us in the first year, Philly and NJ in the second, and now Carolina? I mean, it's got to be obvious by now.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

This poster didn't have a location as I recall, just their name, which wasn't an obvious team name. Besides that, there are many many people on here, with a location listed that has nothing to do with what team they root for. Not everyone cheers for the team from where they are located, either!

Also to Viqsi and Cardiac, I like how it is just assumed that I have no ability to do research or whatever, just because I didn't know who one fans team is, GEEZ Louise!

Relax, I wasn’t speaking about you specifically. Lots of people do it. I’m not about to assume anything about you as I don’t know you at all.

 

[threeVo]

I never said the trade offer was good
I just said that Larkin is not overrated.

People are calling him a 1C and balking that DET is massively overpaying. That’s what warranted my response. Neither of those statements are true.

 

[Svechhammer]

I don't see how that can go on. I mean, c'mon. Us in the first year, Philly and NJ in the second, and now Carolina? I mean, it's got to be obvious by now.

What the hell, man... The first rule of Lottery Rigging is to not discuss Lottery Rigging

 

[rod]

Detroit receives: 2OA in 2018 draft, Justin Faulk and 2019 Second round pick

Carolina receives: 30OA in 2018 draft. Dylan Larkin, Gustav Nyqusit and Darren Helm as cap dump.

Detroit does this because they finally start the full rebuild they need. Having the 2OA and 6OA pick in this draft means they're getting two elite players down the road. Getting Faulk is huge as he could be used as a trade chip for more picks or used for leadership on the team. As well as dumping same cap to sign Mantha and AA.

Carolina does this because they finally have that center they need. I believe they would like to keep Aho on the wing so getting Larkin keeps him there. Getting Nyguist also means a winger like Skinner could be traded for a goalie or even Nyguist himself. Helm helps out getting to cap floor and 30OA pick means they still are picking in the first round of a deep draft

who says no?

Ken Holland hangs up the phone on this deal

 

[odin1981]

The main problem with any deal between the two teams is that the owners severely dislike each other. Mainly due to competition outside of hockey. Now maybe with Mr. I's passing there is less hate between the owner's but they where competitor's for business's around Detroit for decades. Not too mention the Federov offer sheet as well.

 

[dogbazinho]

The main problem with any deal between the two teams is that the owners severely dislike each other. Mainly due to competition outside of hockey. Now maybe with Mr. I's passing there is less hate between the owner's but they where competitor's for business's around Detroit for decades. Not too mention the Federov offer sheet as well.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Fair enough, however not everyone wants to/has the time to check each posters post history!

Fair enough, but then you shouldn't complain when others call you on it if you don't want to take the minute or so it takes to ensure you have your facts right.

 

[Svechhammer]

The main problem with any deal between the two teams is that the owners severely dislike each other. Mainly due to competition outside of hockey. Now maybe with Mr. I's passing there is less hate between the owner's but they where competitor's for business's around Detroit for decades. Not too mention the Federov offer sheet as well.

You know that Karmanos sold the Canes, right?

 

[odin1981]

You know that Karmanos sold the Canes, right?

Oh really? No I was unaware of that.

 

[Svechhammer]

Oh really? No I was unaware of that.

Not sure if sarcasm, but the deal closed earlier this year. Sold for around $500m to Tom Dundon (Dallas multi-billionaire, owned the US branch of Santander and is a major investor/owner within Top Golf) for about 66% of the team, will have the option to purchase the remainder in 2021. Karmanos is involved by minority ownership only.

 

[odin1981]

No I really was unfamiliar with that. Though outside of Detroit I don't stay current with other teams ownership I just knew that for quite a long time Karmanos was head owner of Carolina.

 

[njx9]

Pretty crazy the wings fans ITT not wanting this trade. Obviously Carolina would not offer that

It's almost like having a young, good C is more valuable to the team than having literally nothing, whatsoever, at the position, in exchange for yet another player at a position they've historically drafted well. Pretty crazy indeed.

But then, that's been explained before it was pointedly ignored for a throwaway, non-additive comment, so maybe that's actually the "pretty crazy" part.