Confirmed Trade: [DET/STL] Robby Fabbri for Jacob de la Rose

[SenzZen]

He's a talented player. Why did the Blues give up on him?

Because he’s not a very good 4th liner and there’s nowhere else to fit him into their lineup?

 

[WeWentBlues]

Berube liked Sanford more. I won't ever understand it. Fabbri would have looked good on the O'Reilly - Perron line.

 

[bleedgreen]

You bring up Fabbri's injuries but make no mention that De La Rose has been hospitalized multiple times for heart issues. That risk is just as real moving forward

The fact is De La Rose is a replacement level player with virtually no offensive game. He's never had one at any level. Any tweener could plug into St. Louis's bottom 6 right now with the system they have.

Fabbri could glide around on one leg out there and still easily be the more useful player.

Obviously not to StL.

 

[stl76]

Hated this trade the second I heard about it, and will continue to hate it for the foreseeable future.

Could not be happier to see Robby BIG TIME Fabbri score twice in his debut for the wings. Hope he bounces back in a big way. Detroit fans are going to love this kid, he is all heart.

 

[Petes2424]

He’s going to open things up for AA 5 on 5 and for Mantha in the PP. it was a no brained for the Wings.

They’ll continue to make these type of deals. Some will work, some won’t. A lot of players don’t evolve until another team gave up on him for whatever reason. Strome is a recent example. If Yzerman makes 6 deals like this and 2 work out, it’s a good thing as their other young players mature.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I liked DLR - too bad Habs lost him on waivers but there didn't seem to be any space for him - oh well can't keep them all - good luck in STL.

 

[johnnybbadd]

Yep. This seems to be something that is missed a lot on HF.

Just because a team trades a struggling player who turns out great for a less than great return does NOT mean it was a bad trade because there is no guarantee the player would have turned out just as good if he wasn’t traded.

Even if Fabbri ends up great for Detroit, I won’t judge STL for giving up on him as he was doing nothing for them.

You bring up a good point about the fact that Fabbri needed a change of scenery but it doesn't excuse St Louis for getting a player that is nothing more than waiver fodder as the return for him.

 

[Henkka]

How can this be so hard for people to understand?

STL got a player with perfect fit for their 4th line.

DET got a player who will give some scoring on their middle6.

Win-win.

Both did win. Players did hit for both teams needs.

Great trades are trades where nobody loses.

 

[nbwingsfan]

You bring up a good point about the fact that Fabbri needed a change of scenery but it doesn't excuse St Louis for getting a player that is nothing more than waiver fodder as the return for him.

But what if that was the best offer they had? Why keep a player like Fabbri who you are frequently healthy scratching and doesn’t fit well on the fourth line? While the guy they got isn’t very good, he’s suited for the 4th line where they had an opening.

STL is a contending team on paper, they weren’t going to get a better player in return, and his value was likely no more than a 4th-5th rd pick. Either way STL was getting essentially nothing for Fabbri in return.

This seems similar to Burke essentially giving away Bryzgalov despite him being a great goalie (at the time) as a favour to the player to give him more playing time that he wasn’t going to get with his current team.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

You bring up a good point about the fact that Fabbri needed a change of scenery but it doesn't excuse St Louis for getting a player that is nothing more than waiver fodder as the return for him.

There is no guarantee Fabbri gets it back together, so his value was about as low as it could get.

I don't think either team really loses on this deal. It sucks for St. Louis that a first rounder couldn't work out in their system, but sometimes you just have to cut your losses and get what you can get.

 

[Vitto79]

We saw Fabbri doing this ... yzermsn picking up him and Perlini for cheap

 

[LarKing]

Great debut for him last night. I was at the game and it was very strange to see some offense come from players outside of the top line. He threw a few hits too, really seems like he wants to get his career on track.

 

[67Blues]

Great debut for him last night. I was at the game and it was very strange to see some offense come from players outside of the top line. He threw a few hits too, really seems like he wants to get his career on track.

And I truly hope he does become a consistent 50 point scorer. Everyone is complaining about the return, but don't forget these are people playing hockey, and sometimes when a player doesn't fit into a system, the GM does him a solid and moves him knowing that the return is going to be nothing. They Blues may have even just let him walk after this season, and it was between getting a player that can dress or getting a low level pick that probably has a 10% chance of donning a sweater in 3-4 years.

Sometimes hockey moves are for personal reasons and don't always have to make sense.

 

[Rangers ftw]

How can this be so hard for people to understand?

STL got a player with perfect fit for their 4th line.

DET got a player who will give some scoring on their middle6.

Win-win.

Both did win. Players did hit for both teams needs.

Great trades are trades where nobody loses.

Sure, but usually you don’t trade those types of players straight up.

 

[Aceboogie]

How can this be so hard for people to understand?

STL got a player with perfect fit for their 4th line.

DET got a player who will give some scoring on their middle6.

Win-win.

Both did win. Players did hit for both teams needs.

Great trades are trades where nobody loses.

The Blues lose

Any time you trade a middle 6 player for a 3th liner, you've lost

No matter how you try and spin it

 

[EurlichBachman]

Sure, but usually you don’t trade those types of players straight up.

You do when one of them cannot crack your lineup and has had double ACL surgery. I hope he turns things around, but it was not going to happen in St. Louis. Best for everyone to just move on.

 

[EurlichBachman]

The Blues lose

Any time you trade a middle 6 player for a 3th liner, you've lost

No matter how you try and spin it

He was not a middle 6 player in St. Louis. He was a consistent healthy scratch.

 

[lauraP]

The real question is, do i pick him up in fantasy or keep AA ???

 

[TK 421]

You know who 'won'? Robby Fabbri. He even looks sharp in his Wings sweater and he's got a big smile on his face again. Great landing spot for him in Detroit and he still has fans here in STL that want to see him do well.

 

[AcerComputer]

Surprised St.Louis couldn't get a better return for Fabbri.

 

[Henkka]

The Blues lose

Any time you trade a middle 6 player for a 3th liner, you've lost

No matter how you try and spin it

But if you have drafted so well that you have 100 middle6 wingers and won't have roster space for all of them?

And have a need at 4th line type and/or center position.

 

[KILLger]

But if you have drafted so well that you have 100 middle6 wingers and won't have roster space for all of them?

And have a need at 4th line type and/or center position.

You trade for picks on top of the limited use plug.

 

[Dbrownss]

He was not a middle 6 player in St. Louis. He was a consistent healthy scratch.

Coaching decision, not talent based.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The Blues lose

Any time you trade a middle 6 player for a 3th liner, you've lost

No matter how you try and spin it

Not when that middle six winger was a healthy scratch because you have better top 6 options and he doesn’t fit on the 4th line.

As a Wings fan I don’t see any reason to judge STL.

 

[67Blues]

If we just say that the Blues got absolutely boned and Fabbri will be an all star next year will that make people feel better and we can stop rehashing the topic over and over again?