Proposal: DET-COL

sully6one

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To Detroit: Samuel Girard

To Colorado: Andreas Athanasiou

Detroit does it as they could use an offensive LHD to run a PP and Colorado has a surplus of offensive dman (Makar, Timmins, Byram).

Decent or nah?
 

JoemAvs

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hell nah.
Girard is untouchable. 21 year old top4 D already locked up on a good contract for the next 7 years.
He is not available for trade.
And certainly not for AA.

AA might get you a Helleson or Kamenev +3rd kind of return i would say. Maybe bump up the pick to a 2021 2nd if the market gets crazy. If Sakic loses his mind maybe a 1st.
But certainly not one of the Avs high end pieces.
 

Papa Francouz

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Girard is our 1D this season and will help to make our defense not a joke during our contending years. Big, big no to trading him. Even bigger no to trading him for AA.
 

flyfysher

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If you want Girard you can start with Mantha and add from there

It's a definite no. I wouldn't even think about it unless the Wings were crazy enough to put up their 1st this year without lottery protection.
 

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It's a definite no. I wouldn't even think about it unless the Wings were crazy enough to put up their 1st this year without lottery protection.


Well that's equally as ridiculous.


Avs aren't trading Girard obviously he's our best Defender right now and looks like a future Top pairing guy, but if they were to trade him, Mantha+ as a basis wouldn't be a bad start by any means.
 
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DarthProbert

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I'm the one Avs fan who'd happily move Girard + in the offseason for a serious winger. Girard can be replaced by Byram, for cheaper. Girard had perceived value, which to hfboards means "untouchable" but I'm a weirdo who's willing to give something to get something.

That said, AA doesn't turn my crank. But I'd add to Girard for Mantha.
 

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If you want Girard you can start with Mantha and add from there

It's a definite no. I wouldn't even think about it unless the Wings were crazy enough to put up their 1st this year without lottery protection.

The OP is pretty awful, but it appears you two came in to attempt to balance the scales...
 

flyfysher

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Well that's equally as ridiculous.

Of course, especially considering how I viewed the OP's proposal in light of Girard's contract. I expected the OP to reject it out of hand and drive home the point how I viewed his proposal. Not happening. At all.
 

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I'm the one Avs fan who'd happily move Girard + in the offseason for a serious winger. Girard can be replaced by Byram, for cheaper. Girard had perceived value, which to hfboards means "untouchable" but I'm a weirdo who's willing to give something to get something.

That said, AA doesn't turn my crank. But I'd add to Girard for Mantha.


Or.... And here me out because I know this is crazy talk.


But maybe, just maybe the Avs can actually have 2 LHD that can play in the Top 4, instead of just one? Crazy thought I know.

You are completely out of your mind if you think Sakic is going to turn around and trade the Avs best Defender this summer after he literally just signed him to a 7 year extension at a fantastic cap hit. He's a part of our core and a damn good player. Zero chance he is moved.
 

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Well that's equally as ridiculous.

Avs aren't trading Girard obviously he's our best Defender right now and looks like a future Top pairing guy, but if they were to trade him, Mantha+ as a basis wouldn't be a bad start by any means.

Genuinely asking. He's better than Makar?

I'm guessing he thought Girard had the lowest value of Makar, Girard, Byram, Timmins...
 

DarthProbert

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Or.... And here me out because I know this is crazy talk.


But maybe, just maybe the Avs can actually have 2 LHD that can play in the Top 4, instead of just one? Crazy thought I know.

You are completely out of your mind if you think Sakic is going to turn around and trade the Avs best Defender this summer after he literally just signed him to a 7 year extension at a fantastic cap hit. He's a part of our core and a damn good player. Zero chance he is moved.
2 LHD in the top 4? Byram and Girard. Best defender isn't Girard. Game's onright now, Avs have last change. Let's how often Girard's matched up against Point, Stamkos, and Kucherov.
 

Richard Menzel

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How bout AA and Glendening for Byram???? The Av's have plenty of Offensive defenseman and they value Girard highly!!
 

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Colorado hangs up the phone and changes the name in the phone to “Do not answer”

@nshlphoenix, That's a troll, he's not from the Red Wings board, ignore him/her.
 

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