Proposal: DET - CGY

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by A II R, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:28 PM.

  1. newfy

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    Follow along next time.

    You jumped in on me responding to a guy saying hes back to his normal pace at 14 goals a season. You come back with possession numbers and then say youre not going to even respond to what I said lol. Theres not even 50 posts in the thread, you should be able to follow the conversation better than that
     
  2. TS Quint

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    You are going to feel like an idiot when you re read this short thread. Quite literally have never called him a 14 goal player. The number 14 doesnt even come up in my posts. I even agreed with the concept he can score 30. I know its hard to read when you are raging like this. Calm down and feel free to respond to anything I actually said.
     
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    I read the rest. Pretty much EXACTLY what I have been saying. The question isn't if he can score the question is if he can play enough defense to not be a detriment on the ice dispute scoring. Calm down
     
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  5. Volica

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    Just a note.
    It was rumoured that the deal Calgary had in place for Mark Stone was a 1st and Oliver Kylington.

    This is a major overpayment for a guy that's a league favourite to win the green jacket. Friedman described AA as a headstrong guy who doesn't mesh with everyone either... so, this Flames team is already so fragile, we can't have more guys playing for themselves.
     
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    Too bad Stone wouldn't sign with the Flames. Would have been a perfect fit
     
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    I'd say a second or Kylington. Not both.

    He's looked good the last few games.
     
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    My memory was that it was rumored Ottawa wanted 1st + Valimaki from Calgary. Calgary said no.

    Calgary tabled 1st + Kylington final offer. Someone in Flames management felt they likely had the best offer and was expecting offer to go through. Ottawa wanted to sleep on it or something.

    At the 11th hour, VGK showed up with a Brannstrom + Lindberg and 2nd offer which was accepted by Ottawa.

    I don't recall the rumored deal falling through due to Stone not wanting to sign with Flames.
     
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    it wasn’t that stone wouldn’t sign, it’s that Vegas offered a top defensive prospect in the league (like top 10).

    oliver and a first is way off that.
     
  10. newfy

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    Ok now go read it one more time. I quoted a post that said hes playing at his normal pace after an outlier season last year basically. I said hes on pace for 14 goals, thats not his normal pace and provided a bunch of stats to show why 20-30 goals is more likely his normal output going forward.

    You jumped in out of nowhere talking about his possession numbers being bad. Youre going to feel like an idiot when you realise I never quoted you, you jumped in out of nowhere and didnt address what I was talking about and then proceeded to have a tantrum about how you didnt talk about what I was responding to. Dont tell me to calm down when you dont even have reading comprehension lol
     
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    Or, you could look at the facts.
    Last year he scored 30 goals.
    His most common linemates were Luke Glendening (324 minutes 8-6-14) and Franz Nielsen (294 minutes 7-4-11).
    He played all of 92 minutes with Larkin at 5 on 5.

    He finished the year, largely playing center. Mostly between Hirose and Glendening and then Hirose and Helm, after Glendening got hurt. He went 8-7-15 +2 in 16 games.

    Now, this year?
    Man, he's been bad. Almost zero 5 on 5 goal scoring after spending 4 years being a top 20 5 on 5 goal scorer in the entire NHL.
     
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    Flame away bud. I love the rage.

    Just trying to help you understand the number of goals aren't important when his overall game is a net negative.
     
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    Lindberg wasn't bad either. Ottawa did very well for dealing a UFA that wouldn't sign.

    Another issue was Stone's large ask. Calgary would have had a very tough time opening up $9.5 million in cap. They had a tough time just making the ceiling as it was without bringing anyone in.
     
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    Which I literally said in response to your post. I said he isnt a perfect player but he can provide skill and some goal scoring to a team.

    Lol dug yourself a hole now you have to act like an ******* instead of just reading and realising you were wrong
     
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    More flaming. Just take it down about 20% there bud. No need to be so upset.

    To make life easier on you there is a button with 2 speech bubbles on the top right of your screen. That is so you can have a private conversation. This way you won't have to get so angry about other people "coming out of nowhere" and commenting on your posts on a public message board meant for other people to comment on your public messages.
     
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    I'd also add that he started the season injured and got injured midseason. He hasn't really had a chance to get rolling.
     
  17. newfy

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    Lol or just take your lumps and realise that you were wrong. I make a post and you dont even read it, you cant follow along whats happening in the thread. Its fine, youll get it next time. I dont care if people comment on my public posts, I just get a laugh when thy respond saying they didnt read it, then say I'm going to look stupid, and then when I say read it again they get mad that I'm flaming.

    Just follow along next time and youll be alright, no big deal
     
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    Yes, when all you do is flame it sure does make me look wrong. Relax bud it's just a message board. Maybe you can use it to talk about hockey some time. Until then I guess you can just keep being angry and flaming away.
     
  19. Vancouver Canucks

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    No. Detroit can easily draft an elite defenseman, according to the trend they're following in the standings.
     
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    I mean, there's only one consensus top 10 defender, and he's a righty. Detroit's set with RHD for the next 8-10 years between Hronek/Seider/Lindstrom.

    Not only that, but I wouldn't take Drysdale at #4 or higher, which Detroit is almost guaranteed to get.
     

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