YEM
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It's shockingThose tweets are disgraceful... I'm speechless.
like they made an attempt to use the most fallacious logic they could in those tweets
It's shockingThose tweets are disgraceful... I'm speechless.
Why would he even admit she said no? Especially if it wasn't as consensual as he thought you can't admit something like that, that's just bad. Even murderers found with the weapon still on them deny they did it, not sure why he wouldn't have done the same?
Are you trying to get a job as Juve's social media guy?
Those tweets were definitely not thought out properly. They were probably better off not writing anything.
I am wondering if the questionnaire is valid. From what I understood the questionnaire were emails sent between him and his lawyer. Those are things you don't write in an email. It's usually done face to face unless Ronaldo hired the worst lawyer possible.
Why would he even admit she said no? Especially if it wasn't as consensual as he thought you can't admit something like that, that's just bad. Even murderers found with the weapon still on them deny they did it, not sure why he wouldn't have done the same?
I don't see him in handcuffs. Neither Weinstein or any of the monsters out there in plain sight. What are you saying?No, but you go right ahead and say that he's guilty because there's no such thing as innocent until proven guilty anymore.
I am wondering if the questionnaire is valid.
That's the key question.
Yes there is. Feel free to go to a courthouse anywhere that’s doing criminal trials.No, but you go right ahead and say that he's guilty because there's no such thing as innocent until proven guilty anymore.
Yes there is. Feel free to go to a courthouse anywhere that’s doing criminal trials.
The court of public opinion has never had that standardI was talking about the court of public opinion.
The court of public opinion has never had that standard
Read that guys full tweets. He's also got extreme bias. He's a terrible journalist. Journalists can have opinions, but they should stay behind closed doors, not written in plain sight.
Or brains to be objective and wait for all of the facts to come out.
A lot of famous/rich people settle out of court and get NDAs to avoid media speculation like this. It's sad, but in today's day and age it doesn't matter if you're innocent or not just the mention or accusation of something like that going public can heavily taint your reputation.
I agree partly, but on the contrary, I'm also curious as to why women agree to a settlement and NDA with their alleged abusers, when they could potentially prevent it from happening to more women in the future. I guess that many women in that situation believe (rightfully so) it's too tough to prove the abuser's guilt and it's not worth the trouble of dealing with public scorn from fans of the abuser. It's just something hard to fully understand as someone not in that situation.
Either way, I'm all for waiting to see how the investigation unfolds before making any judgments.
I am wondering if the questionnaire is valid. From what I understood the questionnaire were emails sent between him and his lawyer. Those are things you don't write in an email. It's usually done face to face unless Ronaldo hired the worst lawyer possible.
The last few, he clearly shows what side he's on. It's just unprofessional. I did journalism for a while, and don't like that style.I'm curious as to your examples of "extreme bias" here. He's simply putting forth the story/evidence while also defending the reporting.
Yup. That’s literally never happened either. It’s only the standard people throw out when powerful men get credibly accused of sexual assault. Otherwise the court of public opinion has no standardsOr brains to be objective and wait for all of the facts to come out.
The last few, he clearly shows what side he's on. It's just unprofessional. I did journalism for a while, and don't like that style.
Yup. That’s literally never happened either. It’s only the standard people throw out when powerful men get credibly accused of sexual assault. Otherwise the court of public opinion has no standards
You've never heard of people being falsely accused of rape regardless of social status? I'm sure that no woman has ever lied about rape for financial gain or out of spite ever. That takes nothing away from those that were actual victims who were brave enough to step forward, but let's not pretend that every rape claim was actually rape.
I mean that’s of course something that happens all too frequently unfortunately. But I mean there’s not a lot of evidence going in CR7’s favor.
That is my entire point, if people didn't fabricate these accusations as much as they do it would be far easier to have more faith in the claims. I have not been keeping up with this, but if he did confess and it was on a questionnaire and it became public, wouldn't that basically ruin his right for a fair trial? Wouldn't his law firm be liable to be sued as well? I see someone that says that she said no but was willing so it could be that it was role playing in his mind and in her mind baiting him into blackmail. Again, I'd wait until everyone has their say before condemning either party. Has there been any other alleged victims coming out about him? Does he have a history of such things? I honestly don't know.
Epidemic? No. Less than 10% of all accusations from any credible source I can find. FBI says 8%, 2-10% from a US study, in Britain false accusations rarely reach criminal proceedings, etc. The number of unreported or unpunished sexual assaults far outweighs any false accusations (US estimates only 35% of assaults are even reported), and it's a myth that a large number of men are being punished for false accusations.Is this really a thing beyond people saying it's a thing?
Is there a measurable epidemic of this?
Epidemic? No. Less than 10% of all accusations from any credible source I can find. FBI says 8%, 2-10% from a US study, in Britain false accusations rarely reach criminal proceedings, etc. The number of unreported or unpunished sexual assaults far outweighs any false accusations, and it's a myth that a large number of men are being punished for false accusations.
The truth about false assault accusations
It doesn't seem all that strange. Communications with your lawyer are subject to confidentiality. If you have a good relationship (i.e. are paying a lot) I think it is normal to approach the situation by being truthful with your lawyer about what actually happened and letting them do their job to then tell you what to say to cover your ass. Especially if you are a high-paid sports celebrity who is used to paying other people to take care of things for you. Your job is not to carefully consider things, your job is to perform in a limited setting and have other people take care of the details.
My guess is they get bad legal advice and as you noted it's something that is difficult to prove.