Der Spiegel: C. Ronaldo confessed to have had non-consensual sex in 2009 document

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  1. StevenF1919 Registered User

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    Regardless of if the allegations are true or not, those tweets from Juventus are really, really bad.
     
  2. Wee Baby Seamus Yo, Goober, where's the meat?

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    Oh good god those are BAD tweets
     
  3. TheLeastOfTheBunch Franchise Centre

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    Yeah, they should’ve stayed silent, bad PR move from them
     
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    If they can prove his initial description of the event to his lawyers really did have him admit she was telling him to stop repeatedly, that pretty much seals the deal. Not sure if it's admissable in court but at the very least it should be able to get enough public pressure to get sponsors to drop him, because he outright admitted he raped her. Of course, there's always the chance he'll just avoid any meaningful consequences anyway because he's famous and some idiots think that means he's incapable of wrong going.
     
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    Why is it bad? It's their usual standards. 10 years ago, they felt innoncent too.
     
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    Why are they so particularly bad?
    (I'll admit I just skimmed through them, didn't see anything particularly "bad" or out of the ordinary)

    They're sticking by their player vs allegations that are far from proven in any way, shape or form, and who is saying he's innocent.

    Again, I have no idea what happened in that room, but I think Juve's statement is fairly logical.

    Anyway, agree with Evilo, seems like the standard thing to do.
    And if anything does come out of it, they'll drop him like a hot potato.
     
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    I think you misread his post.
     
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    Fair enough, would’ve thought they would take a page out of Real’s handbook and stay silent like Perez did during CR’s tax case from not so long ago.
     
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    Rape allegations are something entirely different than tax cases.
    Noone bats an eye in tax cases - the Spanish get paid, but the footballers don't really suffer any horrible PR - especially if people understand that the tax laws are part of the problem.
    Messi, Ronaldo, Modric, Mou, etc... Spanish government retroactively introduced the laws, charged thousands of people and a number of high profile high-earning athletes, and are making money off of it.

    Rape allegations though... Something completely different, and I think it's fair to stick by your guy in case the allegations are dropped, prove false, etc.
    And it's also completely fair to drop him like a hot potato if the allegations prove true.
     
  10. Bryanbryoil Win It For Colby & Emily

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    Why is it that I could see a scenario where she was into it and had $ signs in her eyes and was saying no playfully but was welcoming it when I read the above? Not saying that's the case but that's what I read between the lines on Ronaldo's statement. The reality is that in cases like these the only people that truly know what happened are the ones that were involved. That said I have no idea how common anal sex is without lube, if that were the case wouldn't there have been rectal tears and bleeding?

    On one hand you have people in power or are famous that are labeled as entitled looking guilty on the other you have to wonder how many of these allegations are true and how many are for personal gain. It's getting to the point that you damn near can't trust anyone. It's to the point that every sexual encounter with anyone other than your significant other needs to be documented with video evidence. I'm not taking sides here as I have no idea whose side to believe, it just really sucks seeing stuff like this when I know so many kids that look up to Ronaldo the footballer including my son.
     
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    According to her and the 2009 questionnaire, Ronaldo apologized to her after the act. Which suggests he was aware she didn't want it.

    From the report:

    "They tested her for sexually transmitted diseases and swabbed her mouth and rectum on the search for possible traces of DNA. Her injuries -- a circumferential swelling with bruising and a laceration -- were photographed."
     
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    Juventus posting something like "it was a long time ago", as if that was a good defense. And then a tweet saying he's paid to score goals and he puts it in all the time.
    Wording is different but everyone got the idea.
     
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    Yup that's not a good look for Juve
     
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    I laughed and I feel bad about it. Can't believe thet tweeted that
     
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    The tweet is "si! Cristiano finds the target"
    Exactly when they posted about the rape allegations ("dating back to 10 years").
     
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    They said he was polite and professional and that those old events won't change that.
    That's OK. He'd be a polite rapist then.
     
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    Saw someone make the point that when Sunderland defended Johnson at least they did it because they believed he was innocent. Juve's stance in those tweets is that Ronaldo is so good that it doesn't matter if he did it or not.

    They got roasted for those tweets (for good reason) and responded by RTing something from their women's team and then posted a video if Ronaldo training with the comment "SIIIIIIIII!!!!! [​IMG] @Cristiano finds the target! [​IMG]"
     
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    It's one thing to defend a player, it's another to pretty much say that the allegations happened 10 years ago and don't matter because he's a great champion.
     
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    Yeah I'd get if they were saying like, "Ronaldo said it didn't happen, we believe him until proven otherwise and support our player in these tough moments" or something like that.

    Here, they're just acting like they did 10 years ago. "Guilty? Who cares?".
     
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    Ronaldo has billions and billions, best player in the world and so on, has everything and can have everything he wants.

    Somehow I still feel he has very likely done shit like this, something about that arrogance. BUT! Innocent until proven guilty, and unfortunately these cases hardly ever reach the ultimate truth, especially since its been a long time..aand he has the money to buy all the defencies..
     
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    Wonder if we'll see a situation similar to NHL2004, when Dany Heatley was on the cover and then was pulled after the Dan Snyder tragedy, so the second print had Joe Sakic on the cover.
     
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    If he said that he apologized in his questionnaire afterwards than it is basically an admission of guilt. Unless he said it to anyone else it could be he said, she said.

    Anyone that has seen porn sees what a woman's rectum looks like after anal sex with a large partner, it does not look like it would feel very good to say the least. I have no idea what Ronaldo has down below relative to porn stars, but if he really did exactly as she says that is straight up terrible. Would it even be possible to rectally rape someone with no lube while they are clearly trying to avoid it? It would take a lot of force for penetration I would think, and it so she wouldn't be the only one in pain upon penetration IMO.
     
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    Those tweets are disgraceful... I'm speechless.
     
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