Post-Game Talk: Denver at PATRIOTS - practice makes perfect, no practice spells disaster - Pats now 2-3

[McGarnagle]

Apparently that long sideline pass they gave up to Tim Patrick leading to a FG was out of bounds but nobody bothered to challenge it.

 

[Smitty93]

Winovich’s snap count was way down, that’s weird

Zo and Bertrand talked about this. They were wondering if it had anything to do with his weird interviews he does with them. It's the best Pats interview in town!

As always, Mike Reiss is the king of the Patriots beat. I thought his explanation made a lot of sense.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Apparently that long sideline pass they gave up to Tim Patrick leading to a FG was out of bounds but nobody bothered to challenge it.

Ernie fell asleep

 

[Seidenbergy]

Apparently that long sideline pass they gave up to Tim Patrick leading to a FG was out of bounds but nobody bothered to challenge it.

Whoever is claiming that needs their eyes examined. It's literally the first highlight and he's not even close to the sideline when he catches it.




Maybe they meant this one? Still clearly got 2 feet in.

WATCH: Broncos’ Drew Lock connects on 35-yd pass to Tim Patrick against Patriots – The Denver Post

 

[CDJ]

Yeah for sure can’t be that first play

 

[McGarnagle]

Whoever is claiming that needs their eyes examined. It's literally the first highlight and he's not even close to the sideline when he catches it.




Maybe they meant this one? Still clearly got 2 feet in.

WATCH: Broncos’ Drew Lock connects on 35-yd pass to Tim Patrick against Patriots – The Denver Post

Marc Bertrand said it so he probably needs his eyes examined.

 

[JRull86]

Apparently that long sideline pass they gave up to Tim Patrick leading to a FG was out of bounds but nobody bothered to challenge it.

They had a very bizarre game challenge wise yesterday as a whole. Didn't challenege that pass which you mentioned (later in the game, not that opening drive pass), the White 3rd down (HORRENDOUS spot btw), and then took then forever to challenge the Cam non-TD call as well.

Very weird.

 

[McGarnagle]

They had a very bizarre game challenge wise yesterday as a whole. Didn't challenege that pass which you mentioned, the White 3rd down (HORRENDOUS spot btw), and then took then forever to challenge the Cam non-TD call as well.

Very weird.

Un-patriot-like in the whole operation yesterday. Bill seemed inattentive, and they only ended up challenging the Cam TD because a Bronco got hurt giving them extra time to look at it. Was Ernie Adams on IR too? It seems like Bill was so preoccupied trying to get the team going despite the lack of practice that he overlooked a lot of the little things that usually they're the master of exploiting.

I'm still annoyed that CBS never gave us a good view of the spot on that James White play - looked like he lunged for it and got the spot, but before they could show us a replay that showed where the ball was when he went down. Jake Bailey was on the field and punting with like 15 seconds left on the playclock. Mind boggling.

 

[JRull86]

Whoever is claiming that needs their eyes examined. It's literally the first highlight and he's not even close to the sideline when he catches it.




Maybe they meant this one? Still clearly got 2 feet in.

WATCH: Broncos’ Drew Lock connects on 35-yd pass to Tim Patrick against Patriots – The Denver Post

Yeah it's the 3rd and 21 completion. That tweet doesn't show it, but the sideline view sure seemed like his toe hit out of bounds before his heel hit inbounds. I remember the replay on the broadcast.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Yeah it's the 3rd and 21 completion. That tweet doesn't show it, but the sideline view sure seemed like his toe hit out of bounds before his heel hit inbounds. I remember the replay on the broadcast.

That's the 3rd toe tap that is half in half out.

 

[LSCII]

Apparently that long sideline pass they gave up to Tim Patrick leading to a FG was out of bounds but nobody bothered to challenge it.

It was. I was stunned by them not even looking at it, tbh. So very unlike BB to miss something that blatant. The dude was juggling the ball and didn't have possession until he was well out.

 

[Seidenbergy]

It was. I was stunned by them not even looking at it, tbh. So very unlike BB to miss something that blatant. The dude was juggling the ball and didn't have possession until he was well out.

The TV replay had 4 different angles that all show the complete opposite. Not to mention it happened on the pats sideline and not one person even tried to lobby for an incomplete pass, which is a given on any close play.

 

[LSCII]

The TV replay had 4 different angles that all show the complete opposite. Not to mention it happened on the pats sideline and not one person even tried to lobby for an incomplete pass, which is a given on any close play.

If we're talking about the same play, I disagree. Either way, let's just cut to the chase. Do you think that was a well played. well coached, well executed game by the Patriots? Because if not, what are you really arguing about?

 

[Seidenbergy]

If we're talking about the same play, I disagree. Either way, let's just cut to the chase. Do you think that was a well played. well coached, well executed game by the Patriots? Because if not, what are you really arguing about?

Huh? I'm arguing one play. That's it.

Not the coaching.
Not the game as a whole.
Not the injuries.
Not covid.

One play.

And it's not debatable. I'm literally watching the replay now on a 75 inch TV. It was clearly a catch with 2 (and a half) feet in. No bobble.

 

[KrejciMVP]

If we're talking about the same play, I disagree. Either way, let's just cut to the chase. Do you think that was a well played. well coached, well executed game by the Patriots? Because if not, what are you really arguing about?

Looks like teams have figured out the one dimensional offense bill and mcdaniels have installed

 

[Gator Mike]

Looks like teams have figured out the one dimensional offense bill and mcdaniels have installed

I don't think they're one-dimensional by design.

They just need to play better.

 

[Therick67]

Looks like teams have figured out the one dimensional offense bill and mcdaniels have installed

I don't know, having one practice in 2 weeks along with the fact Newton was out as well isn't vey conducive to running a very complex offense. Not that they'd be running one, but you can only
do so much on zoom..

Not to mention all the changes on the o-line.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't know, having one practice in 2 weeks along with the fact Newton was out as well isn't vey conducive to running a very complex offense. Not that they'd be running one, but you can only
do so much on zoom..

Not to mention all the changes on the o-line.

I guess we'll see the next test vs the Niners D

 

[LSCII]

I don't know, having one practice in 2 weeks along with the fact Newton was out as well isn't vey conducive to running a very complex offense. Not that they'd be running one, but you can only
do so much on zoom..

Not to mention all the changes on the o-line.

I still come back to Newton having a piss poor game as the reason they looked so poorly. He sucked. He's always played like shit against Denver through his entire career too, so I'm guessing it's more in his head than his lack of practice time.

 

[Therick67]

I still come back to Newton having a piss poor game as the reason they looked so poorly. He sucked. He's always played like shit against Denver through his entire career too, so I'm guessing it's more in his head than his lack of practice time.

Sure, he was poor. I just think the lack of practice and the o-line playing awful are the biggest issue.

 

[JRull86]

I think the OLine being so beat up right now is the bigger issue than anything else.

I mean look at their starting 5 week 1:

LT Wynn
LG Thuney
C Andrews
RG Mason
RT Elumenor

Now here's their ending OLine against Denver
LT Wynn
LG Onwenu
C Thuney
RG Froholdt
RT Herron

Tough to get anything going with that. Two rookies and a second year guy who barely played last season.

 

[CDJ]

Both Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap are unhappy with their roles in Cincy, I think Atkins in particular would be a good pickup here. John Ross also requested a trade

 

[McGarnagle]

I think the OLine being so beat up right now is the bigger issue than anything else.

I mean look at their starting 5 week 1:

LT Wynn
LG Thuney
C Andrews
RG Mason
RT Elumenor

Now here's their ending OLine against Denver
LT Wynn
LG Onwenu
C Thuney
RG Froholdt
RT Herron

Tough to get anything going with that. Two rookies and a second year guy who barely played last season.

100% this

 

[CDJ]

Jules is like 7-8 for 179 yards and 2 TD’s in his career, that’s wild

 

[LSCII]

Jules is like 7-8 for 179 yards and 2 TD’s in his career, that’s wild

Yeah, that's pretty amusing that he's so accurate when they have him throw. I think it's also pretty damning that when they needed a big throw in that last game vs Denver, it wasn't Newton putting it up there. It was JE11. Sad really. But that's what happens when your QB is near the bottom of the league in passing yards, completions, rating, and TDs. I get people want to give him a free pass for whatever reason, but he's been f***ing lousy.