Injury Report: Dennis Seidenberg

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He's going to play. You wait and see. He's going to stroll in on the back of Seidenmoose and lead us to victory.

Heck, could you imagine if Clode starts him tomorrow? The meltdown would be hilarious. ;)
 

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He's going to play. You wait and see. He's going to stroll in on the back of Seidenmoose and lead us to victory.

Heck, could you imagine if Clode starts him tomorrow? The meltdown would be hilarious. ;)

i said a week ago. if the series was 2-2 hed start in game 5
 

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Pssht what a fool. Like he knows what's best for him. He should learn about modern medicine and the extent of his procedure.
I see it going down this way: Returns for game 1 against Pitt. 2nd shift, James Kneel kicks him in the back of the knee. Seidenberg goes down and this thread gets extended.

:laugh: Thanks. That made me smile.

As long as Seids isn't risking anything I would LOVE to see him back !!!

WELCOME BACK SEIDS ? :yo:
 

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i disagree. he is not a long-term part of this team's plan, imo. if he could help win a single game this year in the playoffs, and never play on the Bruins again, it would be the right move for them to make.

Then why did we sign him to a 4 year extension 7 months ago?
 

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Pssht what a fool. Like he knows what's best for him. He should learn about modern medicine and the extent of his procedure.

I see it going down this way: Returns for game 1 against Pitt. 2nd shift, James Kneel kicks him in the back of the knee. Seidenberg goes down and this thread gets extended.

Sometimes I can't tell if you're trolling one side, the other, or both :laugh:
But hey, if Seids is still in the first trimester, I say let him play.
 

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Then why did we sign him to a 4 year extension 7 months ago?

I think he is part of the teams long-term plan, but players can be signed and traded. He probably has a NTC though and I'd rather keep him for the length of the contract if we can afford both him and Boychuk.
 

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:laugh: Thanks. That made me smile.

As long as Seids isn't risking anything I would LOVE to see him back !!!

WELCOME BACK SEIDS ? :yo:


Glad I can provide the smiles Susan! It's half of what I try to bring here(the other being the tunes of course)
 

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Then why did we sign him to a 4 year extension 7 months ago?

So we could make up stories about guards outside his hotel room when we trade him :naughty:

Edit: Alright, I'm done posting :laugh:
 

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Another sighting! He looks fine to me.
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Folks, speculate as much or as little as you want. That's fine. If he's fully medically cleared to return, great. Get him in the lineup. If they rush him back to take a spot in the lineup if he's not completely medically cleared when there are fully healthy options already existing then I think it's straight up negligent. Some folks are fine with that. I'm simply not. Theres something to be said for a person's quality of life once they leave sport. For the most part medical technology has come a long way but if people don't think that players come back before they are ready with the blessing of medical staff, it's pretty naive, and that's why players' unions have gotten more involved in the debate

I'm pretty convinced that a lot of folks in here have no real idea about the extent of the procedure he had and the extensive rehab that comes with getting that knee to some semblance of game shape and perhaps don't care to find out. Just a hunch though.

What I'm telling you is what's factually known about the landscape of the sports medicine environment right now and the issues the field is facing right now due to more awareness about the long term impact of all types of injuries. Sports leagues have not historically been good to it's athletes about considering their long-term health versus being rushed back into action plus those post-career medical needs are being taken care of.

He's still not taking contact during skating. The discussion should begin in earnest when that happens. Until then, I'm not even gonna trip.

Onky he knows his body.If he says he feels great then he does.Only worry i have is his wind.This is all out war now.
 

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I really think the NHL should allow players with certain injuries to utilize HGH -- and perhaps even some of the less anabolic, pro-healing steroid hormones -- during at least the early phases of rehab/recovery from serious injuries.

The sports science is there, and known medical regimens can unequivocally help a player not only heal from their injury faster... but also heal more thoroughly or completely [in less time].

Obviously i am not suggesting the use of such substances be mandatory, and i am not talking about certain long-acting anabolic steroids that produce intense androgenic changes to the players body when using.

I am talking about those "PED's" that focus more on healing and recovery time. HGH is the perfect one to allow for recuperation programs because the half-life of the hormone is so short, and it is a natural hormone in the body anyhow that does not have the negative effects that some steroids do.

If a player wants to heal quicker/better... i say why not?? Not to dehumanize hockey players, but in the NHL they are human capital and being cleared for return to play sooner can literally be the difference between a team making the playoffs or not making the playoffs. If sports science can help ensure a speedier and more complete recovery (meaning less chance of experiencing the same injury again) i just don't see why it shouldn't be an option. :dunno:

It's not just for the league, the dedicated fans (paying customers), but it's also for the well-being of the players themselves. Sports science can play a big role in making potentially career-ending or career-altering injuries not nearly as serious in the long-term as they would be without the best remedies science has to offer.

Besides, these players hate being injured and the rehab process. They'd rather be on the ice. So i think most players would embrace HGH therapy (and/or steroids primarily used for healing), if they were allowed to.

HGH -- with the very short half-life i alluded to -- is very difficult to test for anyhow. Everything i just said about this topic, to be clear, i am only suggesting for badly injured players.

Hockey, much like basketball... is less of a "steroids = better performance" sport than American football or baseball. Too many other skills are required to be a good hockey player, skills that don't involve brute strength.

Which isn't to say hockey players would not or could not benefit from illegally taking PED's... it's just that the risk of taking steroids (compared to the ultimate reward) is not nearly as worth taking as it is in football and baseball, where PED's pay more reliable dividends (better reward for the risk).

There's my two cents. I'm off the soapbox now. ;)
 

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I really think the NHL should allow players with certain injuries to utilize HGH -- and perhaps even some of the less anabolic, pro-healing steroid hormones -- during at least the early phases of rehab/recovery from serious injuries.

The sports science is there, and known medical regimens can unequivocally help a player not only heal from their injury faster... but also heal more thoroughly or completely [in less time].
...

It certainly makes sense for HGH to be used by injured players. It's the current state of the art for treating certain classes of injuries. And most of this stuff is effectively gone from the body after 2-3 weeks, so in a player on LTIR, one can start and finish a regimen far enough before returning to play that they are clear of doping effects.

But there is a flip side to the coin. There have been anecdotes from players that suggest that steroids are in use among hockey players. (though perhaps not as widespread as in '90s MLB or '80s NFL). You don't want the league to become a place where use of potentially dangerous drugs are a necessity to compete, or to encourage high school players to take them.

The crux of the issue is that the rules need to be sophisticated, and evolve over time as new drugs are discovered and treatments develop, and trends in abuse/cheating develop. The bureaucracy of professional sports works against the best sports medicine practices.
 

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Patriots drafted the kid Dominique Easley last night... coming off ACL injury. And he's had one in the past before too. Zolak made a good point on the radio today.... ACL surgery is the new Tommy John surgery... you come back better and its not a huge deal.

Looking into it more I found a few cases of athletes who have played through torn ACLs:

-Logan Mankins 2011. Apparently his Quads were so strong that he was able to play a full season with the torn ACL.

-Josh Chapman 2011 Alabama football

-Corey Lewis 2011 Illinois football

All 3 are huge offensive lineman. While Seidenberg is a beast, he isn't quite Offensive Lineman size. Still, I know #44 is a workout freak and physical stud. I'm 100% sure he is doing everything physically possible to allow himself to get back on the ice this year.

He may come back this season, he may not. I still think he probably WILL if the Bruins get to the SCF. Even if he doesn't, clearly it's a possibility that's worth discussing, especially with subpar play from Bartkowski/Meszaros. And I'm totally OK with bringing him back at less than 100%, even if it means risk of re-injury and jeopardizes the start of next season for Seidenberg. I think the 2014 Bruins will be just fine in October and November without #44 if he somehow does re-injure himself. Anyway, my overall point is that this is absolutely a possibility for him to return. Not to Game 5, like some people think, but later in this Cup run, I wouldn't be surprised to see #44
 

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Patriots drafted the kid Dominique Easley last night... coming off ACL injury. And he's had one in the past before too. Zolak made a good point on the radio today.... ACL surgery is the new Tommy John surgery... you come back better and its not a huge deal.

Looking into it more I found a few cases of athletes who have played through torn ACLs:

-Logan Mankins 2011. Apparently his Quads were so strong that he was able to play a full season with the torn ACL.

-Josh Chapman 2011 Alabama football

-Corey Lewis 2011 Illinois football

All 3 are huge offensive lineman. While Seidenberg is a beast, he isn't quite Offensive Lineman size. Still, I know #44 is a workout freak and physical stud. I'm 100% sure he is doing everything physically possible to allow himself to get back on the ice this year.

He may come back this season, he may not. I still think he probably WILL if the Bruins get to the SCF. Even if he doesn't, clearly it's a possibility that's worth discussing, especially with subpar play from Bartkowski/Meszaros. And I'm totally OK with bringing him back at less than 100%, even if it means risk of re-injury and jeopardizes the start of next season for Seidenberg. I think the 2014 Bruins will be just fine in October and November without #44 if he somehow does re-injure himself. Anyway, my overall point is that this is absolutely a possibility for him to return. Not to Game 5, like some people think, but later in this Cup run, I wouldn't be surprised to see #44
If we can make it to the Finals without Seidenberg I think I would rather go with the group we have.I think I would only play him if he is ready to go in the next round.
 

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