I thought it was all about the other two not wanting to live in Cleveland, which is understandable.
Signing(s): DeMarcus Cousins to the Warriors (1 year, $5.3M)
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Wade was only willing to leave Miami for his hometown of Chicago, and possibly NYC. LBJ ultimately chose Miami because Riley showed him all of his championship rings he had collected over the years.
heynowbababooey
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What a bunch of f***ing bullshit. They wouldn't let Kobe have cp3 back in the day but they allow this shit??? f*** the nba.
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The league owned the Hornets.
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Paul was entering a contract year in New Orleans just as the NBA wrapped up a 161-day lockout over labor negotiations. At that point, Dec. 8, 2011, the NBA owned the Hornets, with the 29 other team owners acting as principal shareholders. So, the league’s small-market owners begged for competitive balance.
Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert sent Stern a letter in vehement objection to the trade, posing the decision should be split among remaining owners.
“It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed,” Gilbert wrote, citing Los Angeles would save $40 million in the deal while acquiring the best player in the transaction without giving up any draft picks. “I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.”
In the end, Stern rejected the trade citing “basketball reasons.” The league commissioner, per Howard Beck of The New York Times, said the decision was made “free from the influence of other N.B.A. owners, that the team was better served with Chris (Paul) in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade.” But it’s hard to imagine letters from Gilbert and Mavericks owner Mark Cuban fell on deaf ears."
The league was the GM of the team.
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of course the whining by gilbert and cuban played a role in stern's decision to veto the trade
the league sure didn't hide the fact that they wanted the hornets to tank when they took a worse offer than the original cp3 to lakers deal. **** stern forever
hope gilbert has fun watching the cavs fade away into oblivion for years to come
the league sure didn't hide the fact that they wanted the hornets to tank when they took a worse offer than the original cp3 to lakers deal. **** stern forever
hope gilbert has fun watching the cavs fade away into oblivion for years to come
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CP3 to LAC was good for the league. Of course, for selfish reasons, Laker fans would've preferred to have CP in purple and gold., understandably.
But without CP on the Clippers, I don't think the Sterling scandal happens and he would still be the owner. Now Steve Ballmer is building his own arena in Inglewood.
But without CP on the Clippers, I don't think the Sterling scandal happens and he would still be the owner. Now Steve Ballmer is building his own arena in Inglewood.
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It amazes me how many people still bring up the CP3 deal like it is at all relevant to this situation.
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I think this guy is missing the big picture. GS constantly winning championships and acquiring all star talent and the listed teams constantly being in the basement/mediocre stems from the same problem. The overall league parity, and competitive balance, which needs to be shaken up a bit.
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Small market teams have always been tough sells for superstars now even more so. If Bosh stays in toronto, Lebron stayed in Cleveland, Wade in Miami, Harden and KD in OKC the championships could have been better dispersed. If GS still drafts their big three the league looks alot more competitive. GS won their first championship the right way and had to adapt to what teams around them were doing. The only difference is free agents cost more than home grown talent and they were the smartest with there cap. The Golden state organization is just better in all facets of basketball than the rest of the league.
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There's no such thing as "winning the championship the right way." Winning with homegrown talent isn't any more right than winning with free agent signings.
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There is a smart way to do it and a dumb way to do it then. One results in loyalty and chemistry that is organic the other are a bunch of hired mercenaries with their own agendas.
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In what way? Sure they became relevant for 5-6 seasons but now they are back to obscurity. They aren't any more appealing then they were the day before they acquired him.
(Well I suppose players would prefer playing for Ballmer to Sterling, even before his comments but thats got 0 to do with the trade)
Not exactly.
Aside from the We Believe season they really weren't relevant from when Sprewell left until Kerr was hired. Monta Ellis was putting up points but nobody really paid attention to them, they rebuilt, drafted the right guys and it worked out. When they gave Curry and his glass ankles 44 million, a lot of people criticized them, same when Jacob paid $450 million for them.
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??? Build it through the draft or build it through free agency and trades. Only confused morons downplay championships just because they didn't do it through drafting.
Are you seriously asking in what way? And they're not back to "obscurity." Just the fact that they are part of the Kawhi trade rumors makes a hell of a difference.
And you answered your own question. Ballmer over Sterling. There you go. It has everything to do with the trade because like I said, Sterling would still be the owner if Chris Paul never became a Clipper. The Clippers were a hot ticket back then and Sterling was recorded saying he didn't want particular people in "his" games. Now whether or not Sterling would've been eventually ousted for being a racist, we don't know.
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Voight
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Sterling only lost his team because of his comments. Had absolutely nothing to do with the CP3 trade.
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The Clippers were selling out games and Sterling mentioned Magic Johnson going to Clipper games. Magic would not go to Clipper games to watch a losing team. Like I said, we don't know whether or not V. Stiviano still would've recorded Sterling saying these things or he would've said those things in the first place because "black people were going to his games" if the Clippers were still a lottery team. But I'm willing to bet that the Clippers being a playoff contender and his comments weren't a coincidence.
To make it short, I don't think any of this would've happened if the Clippers weren't a draw in those days.
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Built how?
Sixers built their team through the draft by tanking. Fair few people will say they didn't build the right way.
I suppose if you look for a perfect example you look at how Spurs did it.
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darko
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Spurs didn't tank for Duncan. They lost Robinson and Elliott and were legitimately bad. Also got lucky in landing #1 pick (finished 3rd worst record).
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Not a fan of tanking but at the end of the day you gotta do what you gotta do to build your team - especially when you're not a major free agent destination. Besides, with a guy like Embiid they lucked out - teams were wary of him due to foot issues (which will likely effect him his entire career) but since they didn't care to win any games it was worth the risk for them.
Warriors built their team thru smart drafting and also had an injury risk in Curry, for a while there it looked like he wasn't going to be anything more than a 3 point specialist. Houston collected enough pieces to snag Harden and then Paul, Capela was a solid pick.
Exactly - had The Admiral not been hurt that season they likely would have never been in position to draft Duncan and the NBA would have been drastically different the last 20 years.
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DeMarcus Cousins: ‘This was my chess move’
He gave up 20 million to lose a title i guess there are no easy rings.
He gave up 20 million to lose a title i guess there are no easy rings.
Reality Check
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Uhh...The guy was hurt practically all season and got hurt early in the playoffs as well
In addition I love how we're now trashing guys who valued winning over getting paid.
HockeyThoughts
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He's a loser. Flops and complains on every play. Tried to take an easy path to winning on a dynastic team's coattails.
I'm happy he failed.
