DEL 2020-2021 (Eisbären Berlin win championship)

[Lartsaman]

I see that many young german players are children of the north american players who played in Del in 1990s. Back then it was considered ridiculous that so many foreign players took the playtime from germans. No their children can represent Germany internationally. Maybe that wasn´t so bad thing after all to gather so many na-based players.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I see that many young german players are children of the north american players who played in Del in 1990s. Back then it was considered ridiculous that so many foreign players took the playtime from germans. No their children can represent Germany internationally. Maybe that wasn´t so bad thing after all to gather so many na-based players. Germany might even

Whereas that could be thought to be a natural side effect of so many North Americans having made player careers in Germany, very few of the North American kids have made it to Germany's national teams and in fact, very few of them are currently playing considerable roles in the DEL. Hardly any of them, to be honest.

On the other hand, Leon Draisaitl, Dominik Kahun, Matthias Plachta and kids on the way such as Lukas Reichel and Tobias Ancicka are all sons of players born and raised in Eastern Europe who made a career of it in Germany.

There are kids coming up like Sam Dubé and Luigi Calce who are the sons of former Canadian imports. Nick Latta is a regular DELer (brother Louis is in the lower leagues) and they're the sons of Canadian Ken Latta, who played for a while and has coached a real long time. Same story for the four Samanski brothers, with Josh looking like the most promosing (just played for the WJC team and was with Oshawa last season). Mark MacKay was a bit of a DEL legend, but his sons never really amounted to much in the pro circuits.

These are just the examples off the top of my mind (I could be overlooking some guys), but the North American kids just haven't made the impact on the program - or in the pro ranks here - that has been seen by the sons of Eastern Europeans who played here.

Sidenote:
Dmen Tommy Pasanen and Jesse Kauhanen are up-n-comers in the German system and both are sons of Finns who made a career of it in Germany.

 

[Maverick41]

Whereas that could be thought to be a natural side effect of so many North Americans having made player careers in Germany, very few of the North American kids have made it to Germany's national teams and in fact, very few of them are currently playing considerable roles in the DEL. Hardly any of them, to be honest.

On the other hand, Leon Draisaitl, Dominik Kahun, Matthias Plachta and kids on the way such as Lukas Reichel and Tobias Ancicka are all sons of players born and raised in Eastern Europe who made a career of it in Germany.

There are kids coming up like Sam Dubé and Luigi Calce who are the sons of former Canadian imports. Nick Latta is a regular DELer (brother Louis is in the lower leagues) and they're the sons of Canadian Ken Latta, who played for a while and has coached a real long time. Same story for the four Samanski brothers, with Josh looking like the most promosing (just played for the WJC team and was with Oshawa last season). Mark MacKay was a bit of a DEL legend, but his sons never really amounted to much in the pro circuits.

These are just the examples off the top of my mind (I could be overlooking some guys), but the North American kids just haven't made the impact on the program - or in the pro ranks here - that has been seen by the sons of Eastern Europeans who played here.

Sidenote:
Dmen Tommy Pasanen and Jesse Kauhanen are up-n-comers in the German system and both are sons of Finns who made a career of it in Germany.

I think the top young(ish) players with North American roots are probably Parker Tuomie who is already 25 and his father never played in the DEL if I recally correctly, and Boaz Bassen whose father Mark played 6 seasons in the DEL. His cousin Chad is now playing in the DEL2 after 16 or so seasons in the DEL.

I was hoping that maybe Nolan DuPont (born in 2006), who I think is the son of Micki DuPont, would stay in Germany, but he went back to Canada. Which is probably best for his development.
Another kid I was hoping (pre-pandemic) to get a better look at this season was Cameron Leask, son of Rob Leask I believe. Maybe someone to keep an eye on.

But yes for the most part it were kids whose parents came from the Czech Republic or Poland and so on, that have made a bigger impact on German hockey.

 

[Maverick41]

With the games within the divisions over here is the list of U23 players and their ice time.
I may add a list for goalies as well at some point.

Name	Team	Born in	GP	G	A	P	Ø Ice Time
Leon Gawanke	Eisbären Berlin	1999	6	0	2	2	17:37
Colin Ugbekile	Kölner Haie	1999	20	2	0	2	17:23
Tim Wohlgemuth	ERC Ingolstadt	1999	23	8	11	19	17:12
Johannes Huß	Schwenninger Wild Wings	1998	24	2	3	5	16:31
Lukas Reichel	Eisbären Berlin	2002	24	7	14	21	16:05
Philipp Mass	Krefeld Pinguine	2000	15	0	3	3	16:01
Tom-Eric Bappert	Krefeld Pinguine	1999	24	1	2	3	15:55
Marcel Barinka	Kölner Haie	2001	24	5	10	15	15:42
Tim Brunnhuber	Straubing Tigers	1999	22	0	6	6	14:53
Julius Karrer	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2000	15	0	2	2	14:53
Alexander Blank	Krefeld Pinguine	2002	23	5	4	9	14:39
Daniil Valitov	Krefeld Pinguine	2000	7	0	1	1	13:50
Alexander Ehl	Düsseldorfer EG	1999	22	4	6	10	13:39
Taro Jentzsch	Iserlohn Roosters	2000	24	3	12	15	13:35
Nicolas Appendino	Red Bull München	1999	3	0	1	1	13:28
Justin Schütz	Red Bull München	2000	20	6	6	12	13:20
Marco Sternheimer	Augsburger Panther	1998	23	2	7	9	13:19
Niklas Postel	Krefeld Pinguine	1998	22	1	4	5	13:05
Arkadiusz Dziambor	Adler Mannheim	2002	6	0	0	0	12:55
Boaz Bassen	Schwenninger Wild Wings	1998	24	1	4	5	12:51
John Peterka	Red Bull München	2002	16	4	3	7	12:25
Simon Thiel	Adler Mannheim	2001	1	0	0	0	11:58
Maximilian Kislinger	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	1998	24	2	1	3	11:44
Jan-Luca Sennhenn	Kölner Haie	2000	23	0	3	3	11:30
Nicolas Geitner	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	19	0	0	0	11:22
Valentin Busch	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	1998	18	2	4	6	11:19
Florian Elias	Adler Mannheim	2002	20	3	2	5	11:17
Wojciech Stachowiak	ERC Ingolstadt	1999	11	2	1	3	10:58
Tobias Eder	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	23	3	4	7	10:55
Timo Walther	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	1998	24	0	0	0	10:20
Maximilian Adam	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	1998	24	0	2	2	10:11
Moritz Wirth	Adler Mannheim	1999	23	0	1	1	09:49
Eric Mik	Eisbären Berlin	2000	19	0	2	2	09:43
Filip Reisnecker	Fischtown Pinguins	2001	18	1	1	2	09:40
John Broda	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2001	6	1	0	1	09:34
Lukas Ribarik	Adler Mannheim	2001	1	0	0	0	09:31
Marco Bassler	Straubing Tigers	1999	16	1	2	3	09:31
Samuel Soramies	ERC Ingolstadt	1998	24	2	2	4	09:30
Jan Nijenhuis	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	2001	15	0	0	0	09:25
Erik Buschmann	Iserlohn Roosters	1998	21	1	2	3	09:24
Maximilian Eisenmenger	Augsburger Panther	1998	24	3	4	7	09:11
Yannik Valenti	Adler Mannheim	2000	9	0	2	2	09:09
Tim Fleischer	Iserlohn Roosters	2000	20	1	0	1	08:59
Pierre Preto	Adler Mannheim	1999	1	0	0	0	08:51
Simon Gnyp	Kölner Haie	2001	8	0	0	0	08:31
Luis Brune	Adler Mannheim	2000	19	0	1	1	08:30
Justin Volek	Krefeld Pinguine	2002	5	0	0	0	08:27
Sebastian Streu	Eisbären Berlin	1999	16	2	1	3	08:18
Luca Zitterbart	Red Bull München	1998	3	0	0	0	07:58
Valentino Klos	Adler Mannheim	2000	19	1	0	1	07:37
Charlie Jahnke	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	24	3	1	4	07:36
Luca Gläser	Fischtown Pinguins	1998	22	1	3	4	07:34
Samir Kharboutli	Augsburger Panther	1999	19	1	4	5	07:26
Roman Kechter	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2004	13	0	1	1	07:24
Dennis Miller	Augsburger Panther	1999	16	2	0	2	07:21
Cedric Schiemenz	Schwenninger Wild Wings	1999	11	0	1	1	07:09
Mick Köhler	Kölner Haie	1998	19	0	0	0	06:49
Fabian Dietz	Eisbären Berlin	1998	11	0	0	0	06:45
David Cerny	Schwenninger Wild Wings	2000	16	2	0	2	06:44
Haakon Hänelt	Eisbären Berlin	2003	16	1	0	1	06:34
Simon Stowasser	Fischtown Pinguins	2002	21	1	1	2	06:30
Garret Pruden	ERC Ingolstadt	1998	15	0	1	1	06:16
Nino Kinder	Eisbären Berlin	2001	14	0	1	1	06:10
Dennis Lobach	Red Bull München	2000	17	0	1	1	06:06
Moritz Elias	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2004	16	1	1	2	06:04
Enrico Henriquez-Morales	ERC Ingolstadt	2001	9	0	0	0	06:01
Michael Bartuli	Kölner Haie	2002	5	0	0	0	05:34
Adrian Klein	Straubing Tigers	2003	24	0	0	0	05:31
Yannick Proske	Iserlohn Roosters	2003	21	0	0	0	05:21
Julian Chrobot	Kölner Haie	2001	10	1	0	1	05:15
Kevin Niedenz	Kölner Haie	2003	4	0	0	0	04:44
Steven Raabe	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	2001	14	0	1	1	04:33
Luca Hauf	Krefeld Pinguine	2004	2	0	0	0	04:22
Bastian Eckl	Red Bull München	2000	3	0	0	0	04:19
Elias Lindner	Red Bull München	2001	14	0	1	1	04:12
Maximilian Glötzl	Kölner Haie	2002	4	0	0	0	04:03
Maksymilian Szuber	Red Bull München	2002	2	0	0	0	03:59
Neal Samanski	Iserlohn Roosters	1998	4	0	0	0	03:27
Marvin Ratmann	Kölner Haie	1998	1	1	0	1	02:57
Niklas Länger	Augsburger Panther	2001	1	0	0	0	02:30
Magnus Eisenmenger	Augsburger Panther	2000	3	0	0	0	01:19
Nils Elten	Iserlohn Roosters	2003	4	0	0	0	00:51
Leo Hafenrichter	Kölner Haie	2004	2	0	0	0	00:19
Kai Zernikel	Schwenninger Wild Wings	2003	4	0	0	0	00:08

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[Maverick41]

As mentioned in my previous post I looked into the U23 goalies as well.
The tracking of goalie stats in the DEL sucks so, I could not make it as detailed as I would have liked, and I cannot be entirely sure everything is correct, but this is what I came up with based on the DEL website and eliteprospects.

Goalie	Team	Born in	GP	Minutes	GA	Saves	Shots	Sv %	GAA	W	OTW	OTL	L
Mirko Pantkowski	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	17	1009:45	49	407	456	89,25%	2,91	7	3	1	5
Hendrik Hane	Düsseldorfer EG	2000	11	615:03	31	258	289	89,27%	3,02	2	1	1	7
Tobias Ancicka	Eisbären Berlin	2001	8	426:55	14	179	193	92,75%	1,97	4	0	1	2
Nikita Quapp	Krefeld Pinguine	2003	9	405:53	28	198	226	87,61%	4,14	2	0	0	5
Nicolas Daws	ERC Ingolstadt	2000	6	334:39	14	141	155	90,97%	2,51	2	0	0	4
Moritz Borst	Augsburger Panther	2001	1	18:30	1	5	6	83,33%	3,24	0	0	0	0
Daniel Allavena	Red Bull München	1999	1	17:15	0	3	3	100,00%	0,00	0	0	0	0

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[Chapin Landvogt]

As mentioned in my previous post I looked into the U23 goalies as well.
The tracking of goalie stats in the DEL sucks so, I could not make it as detailed as I would have liked, and I cannot be entirely sure everything is correct, but this is what I came up with based on the DEL website and eliteprospects.

Goalie	Team	Born in	GP	Minutes	GA	Saves	Shots	Sv %	GAA	W	OTW	OTL	L
Mirko Pantkowski	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	17	1009:45	49	407	456	89,25%	2,91	7	3	1	5
Hendrik Hane	Düsseldorfer EG	2000	11	615:03	31	258	289	89,27%	3,02	2	1	1	7
Tobias Ancicka	Eisbären Berlin	2001	8	426:55	14	179	193	92,75%	1,97	4	0	1	2
Nikita Quapp	Krefeld Pinguine	2003	9	405:53	28	198	226	87,61%	4,14	2	0	0	5
Nicolas Daws	ERC Ingolstadt	2000	6	334:39	14	141	155	90,97%	2,51	2	0	0	4
Moritz Borst	Augsburger Panther	2001	1	18:30	1	5	6	83,33%	3,24	0	0	0	0
Daniel Allavena	Red Bull München	1999	1	17:15	0	3	3	100,00%	0,00	0	0	0	0

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Thanks for this, as always.

Really wondering whether Quapp is going to be with the U18 in Texas? I think he's just eligible as all players born in 2003 or later are considered eligible, if my info is correct.

He would seem the logical candidate for the team.

 

[Ovechkin962]

Question for you DEL followers, is there any legit top two rounds prospects for the 2022 NHL draft? Are Luca Hauf, Roman Kechter, Adrian Klein and Leo Hafenrichter good players? I only know Julian Lutz, nobody else. Thanks a lot!!

 

[Maverick41]

Thanks for this, as always.

Really wondering whether Quapp is going to be with the U18 in Texas? I think he's just eligible as all players born in 2003 or later are considered eligible, if my info is correct.

He would seem the logical candidate for the team.

Yes, Quapp would be eligible. And I would expect him to be there. Krefeld play their last game on April 18 and while Nikita has been playing quite a bit lately, I doubt his team would keep him from attending the training camp and I would guess quarantine before the tournament. They still have Belov, Cüpper and I think Kapteinat as potential goalies. They won't make the playoffs anyway so why stop him from playing against the best of his peers.
I can only see health reasons stopping him from playing at the U18. I believe he missed a game he was supposed to start recently due to minor injury or illness. Though I am not entirely sure I remember correctly.

If I had to guess Quapp will be the starter for Germany with Luca Ganz as backup. As third goalie I would expect either Babulis (if he eligible and willing to play for Germany) or if they want to go with an underager then probably Simon Wolf. And I could see Wolf challenging Ganz as backup.
Before Quapp's play in the DEL I would have thought Wolf might even be contending for the starter's job. Now it seems less likely since Quapp has aquitted himself fairly well playing in the DEL behind a team that was a train wreck in most games.

 

[Maverick41]

So with regular season over I updated my U23 ice time ranking and included some additional stats like penalty minutes, +/-, and how many games the players played more than 20, 15, 10 or 5 minutes respectively. I also list the number of games a player was dressed but did not see any ice time. I hope it is not too confusing.

Name	Team	Born in	GP	G	A	P	PIM	+/-	Ø Ice Time	GP = 0min	GP > 5min	GP > 10min	GP > 15min	GP > 20min
Leon Gawanke	Eisbären Berlin	1999	6	0	2	2	4	-1	17:37	0	6	6	4	1
Colin Ugbekile	Kölner Haie	1999	34	3	4	7	22	+3	17:04	0	34	34	26	2
Tim Wohlgemuth	ERC Ingolstadt	1999	37	12	16	28	6	+4	16:53	0	37	37	29	5
Johannes Huß	Schwenninger Wild Wings	1998	38	3	4	7	24	-5	16:52	0	38	38	31	3
Lukas Reichel	Eisbären Berlin	2002	38	10	17	27	6	+10	16:34	0	38	36	33	2
Philipp Mass	Krefeld Pinguine	2000	29	0	4	4	10	-11	15:48	0	29	29	19	0
Alexander Blank	Krefeld Pinguine	2002	36	6	8	14	10	-17	15:43	0	36	34	23	4
Tom-Eric Bappert	Krefeld Pinguine	1999	37	1	3	4	4	-16	15:30	0	37	36	22	2
Julius Karrer	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2000	29	2	2	4	6	-6	15:12	0	29	26	18	1
Tim Brunnhuber	Straubing Tigers	1999	35	1	8	9	18	-4	15:10	0	35	33	19	3
Marcel Barinka	Kölner Haie	2001	38	8	14	22	8	+9	15:08	0	38	38	19	2
Alexander Ehl	Düsseldorfer EG	1999	36	6	14	20	8	-7	14:31	0	36	33	18	1
Taro Jentzsch	Iserlohn Roosters	2000	37	3	13	16	12	-4	14:19	0	37	35	15	0
Justin Schütz	Red Bull München	2000	32	11	9	20	8	+10	13:52	0	32	31	10	0
Nicolas Appendino	Red Bull München	1999	3	0	1	1	0	+3	13:28	0	3	3	0	0
Niklas Postel	Krefeld Pinguine	1998	36	1	5	6	16	-14	13:06	0	36	28	12	0
Arkadiusz Dziambor	Adler Mannheim	2002	6	0	0	0	0	-1	12:55	0	6	5	1	0
John Peterka	Red Bull München	2002	30	9	11	20	8	+10	12:50	0	30	28	4	0
Daniil Valitov	Krefeld Pinguine	2000	16	0	1	1	16	-6	12:42	0	16	12	4	0
Tobias Eder	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	37	9	9	18	10	+12	12:38	0	37	30	8	0
Jan-Luca Sennhenn	Kölner Haie	2000	37	1	3	4	14	-1	12:30	0	35	27	10	0
Boaz Bassen	Schwenninger Wild Wings	1998	38	1	7	8	12	-2	12:12	0	38	32	6	0
Maximilian Kislinger	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	1998	38	3	2	5	8	-4	12:09	0	38	29	5	0
Marco Sternheimer	Augsburger Panther	1998	37	2	8	10	6	-2	12:06	0	37	28	5	0
Simon Thiel	Adler Mannheim	2001	1	0	0	0	0	0	11:58	0	1	1	0	0
Valentin Busch	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	1998	25	2	4	6	2	+1	11:37	1	21	18	9	1
Paul Reiner	Eisbären Berlin	2002	1	0	0	0	0	0	11:01	0	1	1	0	0
Marvin Feigl	ERC Ingolstadt	2002	1	0	0	0	0	0	10:52	0	1	1	0	0
Nicolas Geitner	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	30	0	0	0	8	-3	10:43	0	25	17	6	0
Florian Elias	Adler Mannheim	2002	33	3	5	8	12	-1	10:38	0	33	17	1	0
Timo Walther	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	1998	33	2	2	4	4	-10	10:38	0	31	19	5	0
Maximilian Adam	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	1998	38	0	4	4	12	0	10:22	0	36	19	4	0
Eric Mik	Eisbären Berlin	2000	33	0	4	4	4	+6	10:21	0	31	16	3	0
Wojciech Stachowiak	ERC Ingolstadt	1999	25	3	3	6	10	-4	10:02	0	25	14	1	0
Simon Gnyp	Kölner Haie	2001	21	1	0	1	0	-1	09:41	0	17	11	1	0
John Broda	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2001	6	1	0	1	0	-2	09:34	0	5	3	0	0
Lukas Ribarik	Adler Mannheim	2001	1	0	0	0	2	0	09:31	0	1	0	0	0
Marco Bassler	Straubing Tigers	1999	29	2	4	6	4	+3	09:31	1	26	12	0	0
Jan Nijenhuis	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	2001	26	1	0	1	6	-3	09:31	0	25	11	0	0
Maximilian Eisenmenger	Augsburger Panther	1998	38	4	6	10	16	-12	09:27	0	38	16	2	0
Samuel Soramies	ERC Ingolstadt	1998	34	4	3	7	2	+3	09:18	0	34	13	0	0
Filip Reisnecker	Fischtown Pinguins	2001	29	2	3	5	4	+2	09:16	0	29	11	0	0
Yannik Valenti	Adler Mannheim	2000	9	0	2	2	6	-5	09:09	0	8	3	0	0
Roman Kechter	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2004	21	0	2	2	2	-7	09:07	1	18	9	2	0
Maciej Rutkowski	Krefeld Pinguine	2002	4	0	0	0	0	-1	09:04	0	4	2	0	0
Pierre Preto	Adler Mannheim	1999	1	0	0	0	0	0	08:51	0	1	0	0	0
Sebastian Streu	Eisbären Berlin	1999	24	4	2	6	8	+4	08:50	0	18	10	1	0
Moritz Wirth	Adler Mannheim	1999	37	0	2	2	12	0	08:50	0	30	12	4	0
Erik Buschmann	Iserlohn Roosters	1998	31	1	3	4	16	+1	08:46	4	22	14	6	0
Luis Brune	Adler Mannheim	2000	19	0	1	1	0	-2	08:30	0	18	4	0	0
Justin Volek	Krefeld Pinguine	2002	5	0	0	0	2	-4	08:27	0	4	2	0	0
Luca Zitterbart	Red Bull München	1998	3	0	0	0	0	0	07:58	0	2	1	0	0
Tim Fleischer	Iserlohn Roosters	2000	29	1	2	3	8	0	07:51	0	23	8	0	0
Charlie Jahnke	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	32	5	1	6	6	-1	07:46	2	25	7	1	0
Valentino Klos	Adler Mannheim	2000	19	1	0	1	2	-4	07:37	2	16	5	0	0
Luca Gläser	Fischtown Pinguins	1998	34	2	3	5	8	+1	07:32	1	29	6	0	0
David Cerny	Schwenninger Wild Wings	2000	22	4	0	4	8	+2	07:25	1	18	5	0	0
Dennis Lobach	Red Bull München	2000	27	1	1	2	2	-1	07:10	2	23	4	0	0
Samir Kharboutli	Augsburger Panther	1999	28	1	4	5	10	-4	07:10	1	21	5	0	0
Dennis Miller	Augsburger Panther	1999	22	2	0	2	2	-12	07:03	0	18	2	0	0
Fabian Dietz	Eisbären Berlin	1998	25	1	0	1	12	-3	07:00	0	21	2	0	0
Julian Chrobot	Kölner Haie	2001	20	1	1	2	2	-3	07:00	1	14	5	0	0
Mick Köhler	Kölner Haie	1998	22	0	0	0	4	-7	06:42	1	15	3	0	0
Korbinian Geibel	Eisbären Berlin	2002	2	0	0	0	0	0	06:40	0	1	0	0	0
Adrian Klein	Straubing Tigers	2003	31	1	0	1	6	-1	06:32	1	21	5	1	0
Haakon Hänelt	Eisbären Berlin	2003	22	1	0	1	2	-1	06:30	0	15	1	1	0
Garret Pruden	ERC Ingolstadt	1998	24	0	1	1	4	-9	06:26	0	11	6	0	0
Cedric Schiemenz	Schwenninger Wild Wings	1999	14	0	1	1	0	0	06:17	2	8	2	0	0
Bastian Eckl	Red Bull München	2000	7	0	1	1	4	-2	06:11	1	4	2	0	0
Simon Stowasser	Fischtown Pinguins	2002	25	1	1	2	2	0	06:09	0	15	2	1	0
Nino Kinder	Eisbären Berlin	2001	27	0	2	2	0	+1	06:06	0	18	2	0	0
Moritz Elias	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	2004	16	1	1	2	0	0	06:04	3	11	1	0	0
Enrico Henriquez-Morales	ERC Ingolstadt	2001	12	0	0	0	2	-1	05:35	2	8	2	0	0
Michael Bartuli	Kölner Haie	2002	5	0	0	0	14	-1	05:34	0	3	0	0	0
Yannick Proske	Iserlohn Roosters	2003	25	0	1	1	4	-3	05:33	0	12	2	0	0
Elias Lindner	Red Bull München	2001	20	1	1	2	4	-4	05:04	3	9	1	0	0
Kevin Niedenz	Kölner Haie	2003	4	0	0	0	0	-2	04:44	0	2	0	0	0
Luca Hauf	Krefeld Pinguine	2004	2	0	0	0	0	0	04:22	0	1	0	0	0
Maximilian Glötzl	Kölner Haie	2002	4	0	0	0	0	-1	04:03	1	2	0	0	0
Maksymilian Szuber	Red Bull München	2002	2	0	0	0	0	-2	03:59	0	0	0	0	0
Neal Samanski	Iserlohn Roosters	1998	4	0	0	0	2	-1	03:27	1	1	0	0	0
Steven Raabe	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	2001	25	0	1	1	4	0	03:18	11	7	2	0	0
Marvin Ratmann	Kölner Haie	1998	2	1	0	1	0	0	03:02	0	0	0	0	0
Niklas Länger	Augsburger Panther	2001	1	0	0	0	0	0	02:30	0	0	0	0	0
Magnus Eisenmenger	Augsburger Panther	2000	3	0	0	0	0	-1	01:19	1	0	0	0	0
Nils Elten	Iserlohn Roosters	2003	6	0	0	0	0	+1	00:37	3	0	0	0	0
Leo Hafenrichter	Kölner Haie	2004	2	0	0	0	0	0	00:19	1	0	0	0	0
Kai Zernikel	Schwenninger Wild Wings	2003	4	0	0	0	0	0	00:08	3	0	0	0	0

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To me it is kind of weird that the record books will say that Steven Raabe played 25 DEL games this year, when in 11 of them, all he got to do was sit on the bench watching his teammates play.

I would appreciate some feedback if there are any stats I should remove or add in the future. The stats available are pretty limited, but I could add face off stats or shots on goal for example.
The stats for the goalies and the teams will follow later tonight.

 

[Maverick41]

Here are the final goalie stats:

Goalie	Team	Born in	GP	Minutes	GA	Saves	Shots	Sv %	GAA	W	OTW	OTL	L
Mirko Pantkowski	Düsseldorfer EG	1998	21	1254:45	61	512	573	89,35%	2,92	9	3	2	6
Hendrik Hane	Düsseldorfer EG	2000	18	1039:20	53	443	496	89,31%	3,06	5	1	3	9
Tobias Ancicka	Eisbären Berlin	2001	13	691:12	27	301	328	91,77%	2,34	5	0	2	4
Nicolas Daws	ERC Ingolstadt	2000	10	579:39	28	246	274	89,78%	2,90	3	1	0	6
Nikita Quapp	Krefeld Pinguine	2003	11	482:28	33	223	256	87,11%	4,10	2	0	0	6
Luis Benzing	Schwenninger Wild Wings	2000	1	29:38	1	12	13	92,31%	2,02	0	0	0	0
Moritz Borst	Augsburger Panther	2001	1	18:30	1	5	6	83,33%	3,24	0	0	0	0
Daniel Allavena	EHC Red Bull München	1999	1	17:15	0	3	3	100,00%	0,00	0	0	0	0

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And the stats for the teams about how many U23 players they have played and how much ice time they got:

Rk	Team	U23 Players used	U23 Games played	Total Ice Time	Avg. Ice Time
1	Krefeld Pinguine	8	163	2350:54	14:25
2	Kölner Haie	11	189	2178:06	11:31
3	Eisbären Berlin	9	178	1796:08	10:05
4	Nürnberg Ice Tigers	6	140	1567:59	11:12
5	Düsseldorfer EG	4	135	1560:18	11:33
6	ERC Ingolstadt	6	133	1423:41	10:42
7	Schwenninger Wild Wings	5	116	1355:47	11:41
8	Red Bull München	8	122	1231:29	10:06
9	Iserlohn Roosters	6	132	1185:29	08:59
10	Adler Mannheim	9	126	1174:21	09:19
11	Augsburger Panther	6	129	1169:15	09:04
12	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	4	114	1014:19	08:54
13	Straubing Tigers	3	95	1009:08	10:37
14	Fischtown Pinguins	3	88	678:32	07:43

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[GermanNuck]

Top quality starts as usual @Maverick41, appreciate it very much! Your threads are my one-stop-shop for German junior stats and I got to know a lot of talent.

Also hats off to Tobias Ancicka pulling off very solid numbers. Most German goalies I can think of were rather late bloomers.

Edit: Kudos also to my beloved KEC but if it wasn’t for their financial constraints this year there’s no way we would have played with nearly as many u23 players.

 

[GermanNuck]

I haven’t been following the southern league as much this year but is Ingolstadt eliminating Munich a big upset? I for one didn’t see that coming but good for them!

 

[Maverick41]

I haven’t been following the southern league as much this year but is Ingolstadt eliminating Munich a big upset? I for one didn’t see that coming but good for them!

I would say it's a moderate upset. It would have been a bigger upset if it was a best-of-7 or at least best-of-5 series. In best-of-3 even heavy favourites can lose quite easily.
Also Ingolstadt has one of the better goalies in Michael Garteig and he was huge in game 1. Munich was also missing Patrick Hager who is an experienced and usually pretty valuable playoff performer.
But even given all that it is still an upset.
Now, if Straubing would knock out Mannheim, that would be a huge upset, but in one game anything can happen.

On a side note:
Not unexpected, but still a little sad is the decline of ice time for most of the U23 players in the playoffs. It has only been two games, so it's a really small sample size, but it seems quite obvious that most teams go back to the vets and imports over their prospects.

Player	Team	Regular Season	Playoffs	Difference	Pct
Tim Wohlgemuth	ERC Ingolstadt	16:53	17:38	00:46	4,51%
Lukas Reichel	Eisbären Berlin	16:34	15:49	-00:46	-4,62%
Justin Schütz	Red Bull München	13:52	14:40	00:48	5,75%
John Peterka	Red Bull München	12:50	13:21	00:31	3,99%
Florian Elias	Adler Mannheim	10:38	09:13	-01:26	-13,47%
Tim Brunnhuber	Straubing Tigers	15:10	08:06	-07:05	-46,65%
Sebastian Streu	Eisbären Berlin	08:50	08:02	-00:48	-9,03%
Eric Mik	Eisbären Berlin	10:21	07:20	-03:01	-29,17%
Luca Gläser	Fischtown Pinguins	07:32	05:35	-01:57	-25,87%
Maximilian Adam	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	10:22	05:21	-05:02	-48,51%
Samuel Soramies	ERC Ingolstadt	09:18	05:14	-04:05	-43,85%
Moritz Wirth	Adler Mannheim	08:50	04:55	-03:55	-44,35%
Valentin Busch	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	11:37	04:40	-06:57	-59,88%
Erik Buschmann	Iserlohn Roosters	08:46	04:35	-04:12	-47,83%
Tim Fleischer	Iserlohn Roosters	07:51	04:30	-03:20	-42,56%
Marco Bassler	Straubing Tigers	09:31	04:30	-05:01	-52,71%
Wojciech Stachowiak	ERC Ingolstadt	10:02	04:30	-05:32	-55,21%
Fabian Dietz	Eisbären Berlin	07:00	03:12	-03:48	-54,26%
Filip Reisnecker	Fischtown Pinguins	09:16	02:22	-06:54	-74,46%
Steven Raabe	Grizzlys Wolfsburg	03:18	00:00	-03:18	-100,00%

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[PanniniClaus]

Where are we at the with DEL playoffs?

 

[kalle wirsch]

Tonight semifinal first round
Best of three
Mannheim-Wolfsburg
Berlin-Ingolstadt

 

[PanniniClaus]

Tonight semifinal first round
Best of three
Mannheim-Wolfsburg
Berlin-Ingolstadt

Thank you!

 

[GermanNuck]

Congrats Berlin!

 

[Lauro]

 

[filip85]

Who is relegated this year ? Isn't this season supposed to be the one where teams can get relegated/promoted ?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Who is relegated this year ? Isn't this season supposed to be the one where teams can get relegated/promoted ?

No-one will be relegated.

However, the DEL2 is playing its final as of today and that features Kassel vs. Bietigheim. Whichever team wins is in the DEL next season!

 

[filip85]

No-one will be relegated.

However, the DEL2 is playing its final as of today and that features Kassel vs. Bietigheim. Whichever team wins is in the DEL next season!

Ok, thanks ! And what about 21/22 season, will DEL stay with 15 teams for 22/23 or ?

 

[GermanNuck]

Congrats to the Bietigheim Steelers, they beat Kassel today and now officially eligible for the next DEL season!

Tough look for Kassel, looking forward to see them maybe next year then

 

[mkev400]

Congrats to the Bietigheim Steelers, they beat Kassel today and now officially eligible for the next DEL season!

Tough look for Kassel, looking forward to see them maybe next year then

It is rather odd/ironic that the very team that prior to the season was unable to meet the licensing requirements to play in DEL2, and reportedly was in deep financial trouble, not only handed their licensing paperwork for the DEL at the deadline but now also becomes the team that can get promoted...

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

It is rather odd/ironic that the very team that prior to the season was unable to meet the licensing requirements to play in DEL2, and reportedly was in deep financial trouble, not only handed their licensing paperwork for the DEL at the deadline but now also becomes the team that can get promoted...

That's a good point and, of course, they will only move up to the DEL if the ensuing paperwork passes the test.

Will it?

If it does, everyone's going to be wondering how they went from "rags to riches" in such a short period of time.

Of course, there may be a more considerable benefactor behind the scenes than is yet known about.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Adler Mannheim is a powerhouse right now. Already had good players and signed some new good players. They are gonna be a challenger for Champions League gold.