Discussion in 'The History of Hockey' started by kmad, Mar 31, 2014.
Rod Languay won 2 Norris -with 0 offence
don't know if you're counting WHA or not, but JC Tremblay led the Nordiques in scoring in 72-73.
14G/75A's. 1st Team All Star. Won the Dennis (one of the founder's of the ABA, WHA, Roller Hockey Intl & World Team Tennis) Murphy Trophy as the WHA's Best Defenceman 72-73 at 34yrs of age.
We don't have voting results for the WHA but the all stars on d in that year were
JC Tremblay and Paul Shmyr
Jim Dorey and Larry Hornung
Here is a link to the WHA all star teams in their history a much better group of forwards than Dmen.
what? you're trying to say being on a defensively minded (and hugely successful team) with a weak PP is the same thing as "coasting through the season"?
Updated list - apparently nobody noticed Kronwall tied for the Red Wings lead
how about defensemen who led stanley cup winners in scoring? that's got to be a short list right? off the top of my head:
horton for the leafs in 62
OEL and Karlsson led their teams in scoring this season
Yandle was only 1 point away from being 2nd in ARI's scoring leaderboards despite being traded away with 20 games left in the season
OEL might be the first defenseman to lead his team in goals with his 23 goals
He scored nearly 10 more goals than the second best goalscorer on the team (Gagner, 15 goals)
Is this true? I haven't found anyone else with a quick glance. I'm quite interested.
kevin hatcher co-led the caps w 23 goals in 91
I would have never guessed that 23 goals was enough to lead any team in 1991.
I checked if any of the defensemen who had scored 25+ goals in a season had led their team in goals, and at the first glance I couldn't find anyone, so I wrote the post and added a "might" as an insurance.
I checked the numbers for Washington's 92/93-season, knowing Hatcher had scored 34 goals that year, and saw that Bondra led the team with 37 goals, and then decided to skip Hatcher's others seasons, having the same thought as seventieslord had. I guess I wrote Hatcher off to quickly.
my bad. it was actually 24 goals. but obviously the point remains.
that team lost gartner and dave christian in '89, geoff courtnall in '90, and ciccarelli missed a lot of time in '91, leaving... well no one.
bondra and khristich were rookies, and their two best offensive forwards were both pass-first guys: pivonka and ridley. after that, you've got grinders with moderate scoring touch in kelly miller, who tied hatcher's 24 goals, and dale hunter, who was himself a pass-first guy, and john motherlovin' druce right in the middle of his crazy unforeseen peak.
the Wha had a few teams led by defenseman mostly due to expansion leaving some teams with not much offense , the best example of this was the hapless Indianapolis racers second season of existance pat whitey stapleton led the team with a grand total of 45 points in 80 games, the second season was no better, daryl maggs an nhl and wha journey man once again led the team with a more robust 71 points
in 1972 the new york raiders had ron ward leading the team with 112 points he moved on to cleveland where in 75 he lead the team again but the crusaders had him play forward in an increasing fashion
^^^^ boy those are some throwbacks huh? Maggs' & Ward.
Why not? The leading scorer on the Oilers that year had 69 points. (Five years earlier, 215.)
Wasnt Kings a top-10 PP% team this year?
Check the date of the post you're replying to.
Phil Housley led the Jets in team scoring in the 90-91/91-92 season
This is historically still a pretty rare feat but it could happen not only once this season but four times!
Current D-Men Leading Teams in Scoring:
Erik Karlsson (OTT)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson (ARI)
PK Subban (MTL)
Roman Josi (NSH)
Also, Outside Chance:
Justin Faulk (CAR)
Ryan Suter (MIN)
Shea Weber (NSH)
Does anyone have a list sorted by the margin (either in points or percentage) that defensemen have led their league in scoring?
As of today, Karlsson is leading the Senators in scoring by 15 points (26%). How significant is that from a historical standpoint?
Tarheelhockey made this one, I just filled in the last ones and added conference scoring out of curiosity.
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