Defensemen plus/minus chart

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  1. SoupGuru

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    I like to create these on occasion just because I find it illuminating.

    These are the journeys our defensemen took to their current plus/minus. Some bounce around, some are steady. I only chose the main horses this year. The lines are blank when they were out of the lineup. Again, plus/minus only tells a small part of the story but I think it's useful when compared to peers.

    I think Cholowski's adrenaline wore off after a month or two. Daley and Jensen had polar opposite mid-Decembers. Green was a on a tear before he got injured.

    Who would have predicted we'd have three defensemen on the plus side of the column at this point in the season?
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    Kudos to Green, Dekeyser & Kronner (a pleasant surprise). I really hope Daley is moved to get Hronek up this season (doubt any team takes Big E's contract, he'd have to waive too). Either (ideally both) Daley or Big E should not be here after TDL.

    updated 2/5
    Trevor DaleyIRFeb 5
    Comment: Daley (foot) skated at Tuesday's practice, Ted Kulfan of The Detroit News reports.
    also on Daley: Daley is on injured reserve with a broken foot and is expected to be absent from the lineup until at least the end of February. Damnit!!


    I just say this on Bert:
    for FWD's: updated 2/7
    Tyler BertuzziDay-To-DayFeb 7
    Comment: Bertuzzi has undergone a cognitive test as well as a test on his neck, according to Red Wings coach Jeff Blashill, Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press reports.
    ..."questionable for Sunday vs. Hawks"

    Why do I get the unnerving feeling we'll have the Exact same defense for opening night '19, except Jensen will likely be gone & Kronner resigned 1 more year.. Give Jensen $2.5 x 3-4yrs., he deserves it based on this year. Let Kronner retire, LTIR/trade Daley & Big E asap.
     
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    Great post and the topic.

    I find it impressive that our veteran Dmen found a way to have positive stats.
     
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    Cool chart! My only question regarding it is who missed which games.

    On the minus side, we have some defenders who have barely missed a game this season. Whereas on the plus side, we have at least a couple guys who missed a significant stretch due to injuries. Therefore, I wonder what the team record was, including scores, for their respective spans missed, because, after all, this is somewhat of a team stat.

    The only plus Red Wing who you could not apply the question to at all, although not a defender, is Luke Glendening. All of the other pluses have missed a stretch of games. To the further credit of Luke, he is also the highest plus on the team. As for Kronwall, he has not missed many games, but he is also our lowest plus. Daley (borderline), Dekeyser (+) and Green (+) missed more games this season than every other every day player on the team: The Red Wings are like 2/3 of the way through the season, but those three have only played in about half of the games.

    Am I on to anything?
     
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    that the team was significantly better when all of those guys were in the lineup?
     
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    Trend lines look to be Jensen/Ericsson were most affected by injuries forcing them up depth chart. Cholo has been on a steady tail spin all season, in spite of playing sheltered minutes for the most part.
     
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    Do we have a metric for the difficulty of minutes these guys face? Kind of hard to tell when they pretty much all play 20 min/game.
     
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    I posted a thread a little while back that looks at the teams record based on who's injured or not on the teams blueline Breaking out the teams record by how healthy the defense is

    They've basically had one game where every D is healthy.

    The results were basically that when Green and one of DeKeyser or Daley is out, the record is noticeably bad, and even worse with all 3 out. If I get time I'll update it since Green and DeKeyser have been back for a bit.
     
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    Were we a playoff team at one point?

    I also wonder if the Sabres were in 1st place at some point.
     

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