Line Combos: Defense Pairings For This Year, And The Future

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  1. saskriders

    saskriders Can't Hold Leads

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    What would you like to see for this year's defense pairings, and what do you want the defence to look like in a few years?

    This year I would like to see

    Methot-Karlsson
    Cowen-Weircioch
    Phillips-Gryba
    Corvo

    Next year I would like to see

    Methot-Karlsson
    Cowen-Weircioch
    Gryba-Ceci
    Phillips

    For the long term future, my hope would be to lockdown those 6 guys and for the pairings to be

    Methot-Karlsson
    Cowen-Ceci
    Weircioch-Gryba

    3 pairings with 1 offensive and 1 defensive guy each and with 1 right shot and 1 left shot each.

    Left out, Boro. Don't like his game, would rather trade him in a package while he still has some value
     
  2. Sensinitis

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    It all depends on if Wiercioch is able to convert to LD IMO. If he can, he becomes our Gonchar in-the-making.

    A Cowen-Wiercioch pairing would be so huge and deadly.
     
  3. McManked

    McManked Ooh to be a Gooner

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    Next year you put Wiercioch who is a LD on RD and Gryba who is a RD as a LD.
     
  4. Qward

    Qward Because! That's why!

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    I expect

    Methot/Karlsson
    Cowen/Corvo
    Phillips/Wiercioch

    next year

    Cowen/Karlsson
    Methot/Ceci
    Boro/Wiercioch
     
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    long term i think that a top 4 with karlsson, methot, cowen and weir makes sense
     
  6. OmniSens

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    I really can't wait for Ceci to make the jump.
     
  7. Benjamin

    Benjamin Differently Financed

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    Didn't Bmurr say Wier can play both RD and LD?
     
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    Corvo is supposed to help Cowen learn to play defence?

    God help us.

    We have three top 4 d-men right now, so no pairings are going to look very good.

    I don't think Wiercioch, Gryba, Phillips or Corvo are top 4 (yet in the case of Wiercioch).

    I'd still almost rather see what Wiercioch can do with Cowen over Corvo.
     
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    I don't remember Wier playing on the left side last year. If he can, that would be the best scenario. With that assumption I see the following:

    Methot/Karlsson
    Cowen/Gryba
    Phillips/Wiercioch

    with Corvo going in for Gryba and Wiercioch on a rotation basis.


    next year

    Cowen/Karlsson
    Methot/Ceci
    Wiercioch/Gryba
     
  10. NyQuil

    NyQuil F.Y.R.O.U.S.

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    I guess it really depends on whether Gryba can eat a lot of minutes again.
     
  11. Vesa Awesaka

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    Corvo-karlsson
    Corvo-Wier
    Cowen-methot
    Corvo

    I'm a big fan of offense whether it be for or against us:sarcasm:
    Seriously though
    Methot-karlsson
    Phillips-wier
    corvo-gryba
    cowen(cause hes going to hold out)lol
     
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    Woops, meant RD
     
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    Methot-Karlsson
    Cowen-Wiercioch
    Phillips-Corvo/Gryba

    Is what I'm hoping for, but training camp always has some nice surprises.
     
  14. Senscore

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    I don't like the idea of giving Gryba a top 4 spot. He played well in certain games, but he was far too inconsistent for that kind of icetime.

    That being said, I thought Wiercioch looked better, but at this point whether or not he can handle big minutes is another thing entirely.

    I suppose it will be a more of a feeling out process.
     
  15. aragorn

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    IMO Methot, Karlsson, Cowen & Phillips are permanent fixtures in the lineup while Corvo, Gryba & Wiercioch rotate in & out of the lineup. When Wiercioch goes in one of Gryba or Corvo will come out of the lineup & Phillips will more likely be the guy who moves over to the right side. I wonder if PM will employ the shutdown/PK tandem this yr as he did last season with Cowen & Gryba together or wait for the playoffs to put them together.

    Methot - Karlsson
    Phillips - Corvo/Wiercioch
    Cowen - Gryba

    Next Season:
    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Gryba/Boroweicki or Phillips if he is re-signed.
     
  16. Qward

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    I forgot Gryba in my combos. Oops.
     
  17. Beville

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    Karlsson x5
    Cowen x1

    Sorted. For life.
     
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    I'm amazed so many people are penciling Ceci into the top 4 as soon as next year. He's going to spend a year on the bottom 2 to get acclimated to the NHL, as he should.
     
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    He could get acclimated to the NHL this yr playing games around the trade deadline. Some think he is our #1 prospect & has all the tools to be successful especially offensively. You can never have enough offensive players on your team & with his size he shouldn't take too long to transition from the AHL to the NHL. He will need to improve his defensive play & should early with Luke Richardson (a former NHL defenceman) helping him out. I wonder if Jason Smith will ever be an assistant coach under Luke or whether he may be next in line to coach Bingo or prefers to stay in Ottawa.
     
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    Cowen-Karlsson
    Methot-Wiercioch
    Phillips-Gryba/Corvo

    Hate to split up Methot-Karlsson but I think Wier will be needing Methots defensive ability.
     
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    13-14

    Methot - Karlsson
    Cowen - Wiercioch
    Gryba - Phillips
    Corvo
    Borowiecki

    14-15
    Cowen - Karlsson
    Methot - Wiercioch
    Gryba - Borowiecki
    Phillips
    Ceci

    15-16
    Cowen - Karlsson
    Methot - Ceci
    Gryba - Wiercioch
    UFA
    Sadao
     
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    If Phillips and Gryba gain just a bit more foot speed, they become lethal as a pairing.
     
  23. WhiteLight*

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    13-14
    Cowen - Karlsson
    Methot - Gryba
    Phillips - Wiercioch
    Corvo
    Borowiecki

    14-15
    Cowen - Karlsson
    Methot - Ceci
    Wiercioch - Gryba
    Borowiecki
    Wikstrand

    15-16
    Cowen - Karlsson
    Methot - Ceci
    Wiercioch - Gryba
    Borowiecki
    Wikstrand
     
  24. Fenix Rises 2026

    Fenix Rises 2026 Alfie forever!

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    These things never really play out this way. We'll get more prospects or players via trade/ufa who will pass some of our current players/prospects.

    I could see Karlsson, Methot and Ceci sticking around. After that, it's anybody's guess. Will Wikstrand pass Strangeballs? Don't know....

    Will we trade for a dman, or have a future 1st rounder make the jump early? Couldn't say... Stay tuned I guess.
     
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    Wikstrand-Karlsson :amazed:
     

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