Player Discussion David Quinn: Part VI

[JHS]

Not a huge Larry Brooks fan, but the guy made a good point.

It all comes down to if David Quinn is the guy to take the Rangers to that next level?

Nothing more or less.

I think you would be right in saying he's not responsible for putting the team together.

But it's also a fact certain that the Rangers came on the ice for way too many games not ready to play. More than just those last critical games against the Isles and Caps.

That's about getting the most out of your team and helping them realize their potential which is absolutely the job of a head coach.

I made a very similar point a few weeks back that it's not helpful to look back at Quinn's job so far and decide if he's the guy moving forward. What's most important is looking ahead and recognizing he does not have the skill set nor the experience to move the team to the next level..

 

[nyr2k2]

I don't feel like he's getting fired at this point.

 

[Edge]

I made a very similar point a few weeks back that it's not helpful to look back at Quinn's job so far and decide if he's the guy moving forward. What's most important is looking ahead and recognizing he does not have the skill set nor the experience to move the team to the next level..

One of the questions I suspect the Rangers will be asking themselves is whether the next level/next stage is 2021-22, or if it comes the year after.

 

[rangersfansince08]

One of the questions I suspect the Rangers will be asking themselves is whether the next level/next stage is 2021-22, or if it comes the year after.

I mean didn't we finish the highest out of all the non playoff teams? Playoffs should be the goal next season imo.

 

[Edge]

I mean didn't we finish the highest out of all the non playoff teams? Playoffs should be the goal next season imo.

I definitely think the playoffs are the goal.

The question might be whether the Rangers view that as the next level, or what comes after.

 

[rangers1314]

I definitely think the playoffs are the goal.

The question might be whether the Rangers view that as the next level, or what comes after.

Could it also be an issue of the Rangers not loving any of the possible replacements out there?

 

[Edge]

Could it also be an issue of the Rangers not loving any of the possible replacements out there?

That is definitely a potential factor as well.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I definitely think the playoffs are the goal.

The question might be whether the Rangers view that as the next level, or what comes after.

Yea I don't think we need to go all in for them though like NJ did during Hall's Hart year. I'd rather miss next year and be consistent after that than make it next year due to a bunch of short term contracts and deadline rentals.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Could it also be an issue of the Rangers not loving any of the possible replacements out there?

Does that change a year from now though?

 

[rangers1314]

Does that change a year from now though?

Yeah, who knows. I guess all you can do is make the best decision you can with the info you have available to you in the moment.

If Sullivan was their guy, and it certainly looks like he's sticking in Pitt, maybe they just decide to trust the devil they know.

 

[romba]

Torts in his final days with the Rangers was a coach who'd lost the locker room. Quinn, warts and all, doesn't seem to have that same vibe around him.

It's not necessarily going to save him, but I don't know if it'll be a factor either.

One of the biggest factors out there could end up being whether the Rangers like any of the other options and/or feel the timing is right for those options.

Truth be told, this could end up becoming a marriage of convenience for a little bit.

AV lost the room too no?

Ppl won't like your last point but I can see us sticking with Quinn for another year to see what other coaches shake loose and become available....and if the team turns it around next year and takes the strides expected then he can hang on longer until they hit a bad slump

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don't feel like he's getting fired at this point.

I agree the longer we don’t hear anything the more I think he sticks around

I always expected him to start the year next season anyways but with everything that’s happened in the last week, it’s just an odd situation lol

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Still makes no sense if the reason they fired JD and Gorts was to change the culture (fair) yet they are keeping this guy

 

[tomobson]

Still makes no sense if the reason they fired JD and Gorts was to change the culture (fair) yet they are keeping this guy

Yea, I feel like starting off with a clean slate would be better for the team than sticking with Quinn who is probably going to feel even more pressure now to force a playoff run. Unfortunately, the only tool Quinn has to try and win games is force feed veterans minutes until they break. Another season like this past one is the last thing this team needs.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

What a disaster of a franchise, keeping this utter bum.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

I wonder if the young guys potentially having to learn a new system will factor into Drury's decision. Kakko and Laff (towards the end of the season) looked so much more comfortable and not out of place. Do you really want them starting over? Hiring Knobloch would probably make for the smoothest transition.

 

[rangers1314]

Still makes no sense if the reason they fired JD and Gorts was to change the culture (fair) yet they are keeping this guy

Yeah it's almost like the firing for JD & JG was made without any really thought or planning. It's almost like it was done impulsively by a nut job.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

AV lost the room too no?

Ppl won't like your last point but I can see us sticking with Quinn for another year to see what other coaches shake loose and become available....and if the team turns it around next year and takes the strides expected then he can hang on longer until they hit a bad slump

I don't know if AV lost the room or the franchise moved away from AV's more hand's off style.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Yeah it's almost like the firing for JD & JG was made without any really thought or planning. It's almost like it was done impulsively by a nut job.

And in the timing and it's typical Dolan vindictiveness.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

What a disaster of a franchise, keeping this utter bum.

Can we at least wait until there is an announcement?

Seriously the amount of outrage that has been fabricated on these boards the last week over shit that doesn't actually actually exist has been insane.

 

[Edge]

AV lost the room too no?

Ppl won't like your last point but I can see us sticking with Quinn for another year to see what other coaches shake loose and become available....and if the team turns it around next year and takes the strides expected then he can hang on longer until they hit a bad slump

I don't necessarily know if AV completely lost the room, so much as the room changed and he wasn't necessarily the right guy where that change was leading (on top of shelf life concerns). To that end, him losing the room was inevitable at that point.

 

[nyr2k2]

If they keep the coach, I feel like that says that ownership felt like the blame for the lack of physical and mental toughness was more to do with the roster construction than anything the coach was or was not doing. That those games where we came out and got embarrassed, where we couldn't do a damn thing against a team like the Islanders, that's being viewed as more of a personnel issue than a coaching issue. I don't fully agree, but that's what it would signal to me--if indeed we keep Quinn.

 

[Leetch3]

Still makes no sense if the reason they fired JD and Gorts was to change the culture (fair) yet they are keeping this guy

nothing about firing them makes sense or followed any logic lol

 

[duhmetreE]

I didn't realize there were more interviews today. Tonight or tomorrow. If it's not done by then.... Our hope is we move to a good assistant for offense; or add a lot of help for the offense.

Skills coach(es)
Faceoffs coach

If we gave BB a fat enough check would he take an assistant role?

 

[SA16]

Would Drury consider naming himself head coach? Sather did double duty for the team in the past. He mentioned how when he filled in as an assistant when Quinn was out that it was his first time on the bench in years and it gave him a new perspective.