Proposal: David Pastrnak for Mitch Marner

[DavidWilliamsCB]

I think we all know why a fan of the habs would start such a proposal. To try and see two of their rivals' fans argue who is better while they sit back and watch the show. Silly proposal.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Both of these guys are elite young players but I feel that Marner probably has a bit more upside and seems more dedicated to playing both sides of the ice (though neither can be considered good defensively yet).

Can't go wrong with either though. Out of all the current Bruins players, this guy scares me the most.

Pastrnak wouldn't be playing on the top line if he wasn't pretty good defensively.

 

[Paulinvancouver]

I don't see why Boston would do this.

Toronto probably sticks with their fury too.

So no.

 

[shortfuze]

How does this help either team?

Why is a Habs fan proposing this?

We'll keep our guy and Boston will keep theirs.

And you spelt Patrnak wrong.

and so did you. Why do you care who proposed it. It's the main forum for trades. People are allowed to discuss trades here.

 

[shortfuze]

Pasta better now. Marner cheaper and could be better later or at worse a wash. Marner for this Leafs fan.

Or at worse he regresses and doesn't come close to pastrnak.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Pastrnak wouldn't be playing on the top line if he wasn't pretty good defensively.

Didn't realize being pretty good defensively was a requirement these days for being a top 3 forward.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Didn't realize being pretty good defensively was a requirement these days for being a top 3 forward.

You yourself tried to knock Pastrnak by saying you think Marner has higher two-way upside (both laughable and unprovable).

Are you refuting your own argument?

 

[BrannigansLaw]

You yourself tried to knock Pastrnak by saying you think Marner has higher two-way upside (both laughable and unprovable).

The only thing laughable is how irrelevant and pointless this post is.

But please go ahead and point out where I contradicted myself.

 

[LeveilleFan19]

The only thing laughable is how irrelevant and pointless this post is.

But please go ahead and point out where I contradicted myself.

You did state that Marner "seems more dedicated to playing both sides of the ice".

How would you know that?

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Both of these guys are elite young players but I feel that Marner probably has a bit more upside and seems more dedicated to playing both sides of the ice (though neither can be considered good defensively yet).

Can't go wrong with either though. Out of all the current Bruins players, this guy scares me the most.

Pastrnak is actually a pretty good defensive player. Probably gets amplified from playing with Bergy but there's a reason he's there and trusted to be there.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

You did state that Marner "seems more dedicated to playing both sides of the ice".

How would you know that?

Because I've seen both play and it's my opinion?? Notice how I used the word "seems" and not an absolute term.

 

[Marshy]

Or at worse he regresses and doesn't come close to pastrnak.

He already is close to Pastrnak. Hey if ELC status was reversed I'd take Pasta right now if forced to choose and with cap considerations, etc.

 

[MagicalRazor]

Marner fits the leafs better . He has that elite play making skill the leafs are gonna need down the road and his skating is wild have you guys seen the off season videos he has done?! mind blown

 

[Territory]

Leafs need the next 2 seasons of Marners ELC. Doesn't make any sense to trade him for a guy who is about to get paid.

 

[shortfuze]

He already is close to Pastrnak. Hey if ELC status was reversed I'd take Pasta right now if forced to choose and with cap considerations, etc.

Well, he can regress.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

You did state that Marner "seems more dedicated to playing both sides of the ice".

How would you know that?

Bingo. A very biased and agenda driven opinion no doubt. He then mentions defense isn't required for a top three forward. Why bring it up in that case?

 

[1dreamof1cup]

No ways bruins do this, Pasta is way better.

 

[Critical13]

They are pretty close as of now, but I think Marner will have the better career and has 2 years of ELC left.

 

[TheTechNoir]

I think we all know why a fan of the habs would start such a proposal. To try and see two of their rivals' fans argue who is better while they sit back and watch the show. Silly proposal.

I would make an equivalant thread about pasta - mtl player trade, or marner - mtl trade... But. Oh yeah. They don't have any one comparable enough.

 

[PKWeber]

I would make an equivalant thread about pasta - mtl player trade, or marner - mtl trade... But. Oh yeah. They don't have any one comparable enough.

You could have made a thread about Weber and Rielly or Drouin and Bozak.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Well, he can regress.

Why is it brought up repeatedly that Marner could regress but not Pastrnak. Both players could get worse. Both could become borderline NHLers, but all projections based on past play look to be pointing to the opposite.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Bingo. A very biased and agenda driven opinion no doubt. He then mentions defense isn't required for a top three forward. Why bring it up in that case?

Oh right I forgot HFs golden rule: Only non-Leafs fans can have unbiased opinions no doubt.

I'll admit I've only seen him in games vs. Toronto which, again, is why I used the word seems, but this is just an example of a play that came to my mind.

 

[The CyNick]

I like marner's upside more

 

[riverhawkey91]

FWIW I'm not sure Marner still being on his ELC actually does make him any more valuable these days.

The way the market is going the last few years, if the Leafs wait until his ELC is up to re-sign him, they might very well end up paying him over a million more AAV than Pastrnak will likely get for fairly similar production, depending on his progression.

 

[Patagonia]

Not a fan of the Leafs, but this would be an idiotic trade for the team.

Pasta is substantially better, but wants approx $8M per. (I expect Leaf fan complaints). Marner remains a ELC and likely Bridge deal afterwards that would still be at least 50% cheaper for the next 3-4 years.

Bruins can dump this overpriced player with another team and Leafs continue with the rebuild.