Player Discussion David Krejci VI

[mjhfb]

So the choice for Butch is - do you rest him to get him going, or do you play him to get the new guys used to him?

 

[Kegs]

I said it during the last off season and still believe they should have traded Krejci while his stock was / is high. There needs to be a watered down version of what they did in 2015 with moving serviceable players for a tempered rebuild. Aside from Studnicka, I am not convinced they have enough high end offensive talent in their prospect pool to be competitive in the conference in 2-3 years from now. (Wouldn't be saying this had we drafted the no brainers in a deep 2015 draft)

Good thing you’re not the gm then. Trade him for a rebuild? They are the best team in the league at this point.

trade him for a rebuild he says.

 

[Kegs]

They passed on Barzal because of character concerns. fully support this. what about Connor? they went off the board and failed. they got lucky / are fortunate that Carlo and Lauzon have taken hold. otherwise 5 picks in the first 52 of a strong draft would have been a wipeout.

The draft is a crapshoot. Let’s just be thankful for what they did get and not what they missed out on.

 

[arider1990]

They passed on Barzal because of character concerns. fully support this. what about Connor? they went off the board and failed. they got lucky / are fortunate that Carlo and Lauzon have taken hold. otherwise 5 picks in the first 52 of a strong draft would have been a wipeout.

Well there are reports out there saying Connor wouldn't have signed with the Bruins. Imagine drafting a guy then after 4 years of college losing him.

 

[Estlin]

The draft is a crapshoot. Let’s just be thankful for what they did get and not what they missed out on.

Not always.

 

[badbrewin]

Good thing you’re not the gm then. Trade him for a rebuild? They are the best team in the league at this point.

trade him for a rebuild he says.

Live in the present then. After being spoiled for the last decade, the B's are about 1-2 years away from being the current version of the Sharks / Ducks...also look at the up and coming talent of the teams in the eastern conference.

The B's forward youth talent pool is so razor thin that if you consider the notion of a tempered rebuild something to scoff at, then you're the HF board's equivalent of Pete Chiarelli.

 

[Kegs]

Live in the present then. After being spoiled for the last decade, the B's are about 1-2 years away from being the current version of the Sharks / Ducks...also look at the up and coming talent of the teams in the eastern conference.

The B's forward youth talent pool is so razor thin that if you consider the notion of a tempered rebuild something to scoff at, then you're the HF board's equivalent of Pete Chiarelli.

Listen. The team is in first. Trading away their second best centre for future aspirations is the dumbest thing ever. They will need him if they want to win the cup. You know the cup? The ultimate prize. They are a cup contender. Cup contenders do not trade and rebuild they try and win cups.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

I'm concerned. 2 points in his last 10, and a -7 in that time.

It would be one thing if it was just the points, because his wingers haven't been scoring a ton during that span either (DeBrusk has 0 points in 10 games), but Krejci seems to be getting knocked off the puck easily, and is spending more and more time in his own zone.

Agreed. It's concerning because Krejci was excellent from start to finish last season. One can only hope this isn't a case of him wearing down with age. Sadly, Bergeron seems to be slowing down as well. He's sub-PPG despite playing with two of the very best players in the game. Last season he was well over PPG. This may be our last shot at winning with our current group of centres.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Well there are reports out there saying Connor wouldn't have signed with the Bruins. Imagine drafting a guy then after 4 years of college losing him.

Why would an American kid not sign with Boston, but be happy to sign with Winnepeg?

 

[Dr Hook]

Not always.

True. Lemieux and Crosby were pretty much sure things. McDavid, etc. Where the Bruins typically pick, it's crapshoot-like for sure.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

True. Lemieux and Crosby were pretty much sure things. McDavid, etc. Where the Bruins typically pick, it's crapshoot-like for sure.

In 1993 Alexandre Daigle was considered a sure thing.

 

[Dr Hook]

In 1993 Alexandre Daigle was considered a sure thing.

Oh that's right, forgot about that guy- the next Great One! Wasn't he pretty much an injury case, though?

 

[easton117]

Good thing you’re not the gm then. Trade him for a rebuild? They are the best team in the league at this point.

trade him for a rebuild he says.

I don’t think it’s incorrect to question their long term talent up the middle. Coyle is an excellent 3c. Passable 2C. Kuraly tops out as a 3c. Studnicka is a who the hell knows despite what everyone hopes.

Sweeney should absolutely listen if a team came calling about Krejci this summer. If they offered a player or two that projected well on the right side of 30 you’d have to give it some thought no?

 

[mjhfb]

Oh that's right, forgot about that guy- the next Great One! Wasn't he pretty much an injury case, though?

I remember Chris Pronger being interviewed after being selected 2nd after Daigle went 1st overall. He said in a couple years Ottawa will realize they made a mistake.
He went on to the HOF and Daigle fizzled.

Back to Krejci.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Oh that's right, forgot about that guy- the next Great One! Wasn't he pretty much an injury case, though?

More of a head case.

 

[Dr Hook]

More of a head case.

That's a form of injury

 

[arider1990]

Why would an American kid not sign with Boston, but be happy to sign with Winnepeg?

Maybe he didn't want to be part of the team. I mean they did lose Hamilton because he didn't want to sign with them.

 

[BB88]

Right now it's tough to see him re-signed.

I don't think it's a good idea to look at Bergeron/Krecji/Coyle top9 for the next 3-5 years in the middle(damm would that be slow)

Sweeney needs to start a retool in the following years whoever ends up being the answer.
Letting Krejci walk frees up lot of money, a spot and forces Sweeney to look for answers.

This is not a hate post on Krejci but someone needs to go and it shouldn't be Bergeron nor Coyle.

 

[Kegs]

Right now it's tough to see him re-signed.

I don't think it's a good idea to look at Bergeron/Krecji/Coyle top9 for the next 3-5 years in the middle(damm would that be slow)

Sweeney needs to start a retool in the following years whoever ends up being the answer.
Letting Krejci walk frees up lot of money, a spot and forces Sweeney to look for answers.

This is not a hate post on Krejci but someone needs to go and it shouldn't be Bergeron nor Coyle.

I think he just resigns him for closer to 5 mil. Hard to imagine letting krecji walk. He is one of the best playoff performers on the team. I think he retires a bruin personally. Then again. I really find his 200 foot game so good

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Well there are reports out there saying Connor wouldn't have signed with the Bruins. Imagine drafting a guy then after 4 years of college losing him.

Not a snowballs chance in hell he would have stayed
in school even past two years.

He left after ONE year at Michigan. Completely
ridiculous take here.

 

[BB88]

I think he just resigns him for closer to 5 mil. Hard to imagine letting krecji walk. He is one of the best playoff performers on the team. I think he retires a bruin personally. Then again. I really find his 200 foot game so good

The thing is he was.

Do you really want to have Bergeron at 38y, Krecji at 37y in the middle?
What are you going to do with Stud then, ask him to wait 5 years?
Boston needs to start to bring in to the NHL and Bergeron& Coyle can shelter him

Krejcis contract ends when he’s 35y, that’s a nice age to say goodbye to him

 

[DKH]

So the choice for Butch is - do you rest him to get him going, or do you play him to get the new guys used to him?

Middle ground is perfect

15 minutes

no back to backs

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Live in the present then. After being spoiled for the last decade, the B's are about 1-2 years away from being the current version of the Sharks / Ducks...also look at the up and coming talent of the teams in the eastern conference.

The B's forward youth talent pool is so razor thin that if you consider the notion of a tempered rebuild something to scoff at, then you're the HF board's equivalent of Pete Chiarelli.

I don't disagree with your point about high end
forward talent below the parent club. However
they have a top 5 D corp that has a 22,23, 23 and
& 25 year old in the top 6.

Rask appears to be capable of elite level goal tending with Halak (I would overpay by 500K to keep Halak) through 2022-23. Honestly, its much easier to win with
very good team D, than a team trying to outscore
its mistakes.

Pastrnak, DeBrusk and Kase is a good base of young
top 6 F wingers. Coyle to me is their #2 C right now, but only
top six center under 30.

Hope Rask is good friends with Barkov as he might be
the only true #1C available in FA soon.
If Boston can sign him they would be in really good shape in the next 3-4 years.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Agreed. It's concerning because Krejci was excellent from start to finish last season. One can only hope this isn't a case of him wearing down with age. Sadly, Bergeron seems to be slowing down as well. He's sub-PPG despite playing with two of the very best players in the game. Last season he was well over PPG. This may be our last shot at winning with our current group of centres.

Is it Washington's last chance? Ovechkin is Bergeron's
age and Oshie is Krejci's age. Holtby looks to be regressing. Crosby with his core body issue looks
to be in worse shape than Bergeron now. Malkin
will be 34 thus year.

Even TB with Stamkos dealing with core body injury issues is impacted.

 

[BAD BOY]

Live in the present then. After being spoiled for the last decade, the B's are about 1-2 years away from being the current version of the Sharks / Ducks...also look at the up and coming talent of the teams in the eastern conference.

The B's forward youth talent pool is so razor thin that if you consider the notion of a tempered rebuild something to scoff at, then you're the HF board's equivalent of Pete Chiarelli.

I don't disagree with your point about high end
forward talent below the parent club. However
they have a top 5 D corp that has a 22,23, 23 and
& 25 year old in the top 6.

Rask appears to be capable of elite level goal tending with Halak (I would overpay by 500K to keep Halak) through 2022-23. Honestly, its much easier to win with
very good team D, than a team trying to outscore
its mistakes.

Pastrnak, DeBrusk and Kase is a good base of young
top 6 F wingers. Coyle to me is their #2 C right now, but only
top six center under 30.

Hope Rask is good friends with Barkov as he might be
the only true #1C available in FA soon.
If Boston can sign him they would be in really good shape in the next 3-4 years.

Is San Jose in this spot they are in because of bad contracts handed out that they can’t get out of or overall bad drafting. Sure I understand move DK at the end of the year their might be a market for him . They might eat a little of the contract. If not he stays here no big deal. All done moving first rd picks or taking salary. They want the player your taking the whole contract. Of course free up money and sign someone else. I also have no problem keep him as well. It’s only one more year. What’s done is done.