Player Discussion David Krejci V

[ODAAT]

Holy misrepresentation Batman!! Never said that. What I was saying is that he was motivated by the change with Cehlarik up for a few games, which is why he played well in that span. That excitement seems to have waned now, so he was sub par last night. Again, my point is and has been that he struggles with effort and motivation. When he gives a full effort, the team is different and far more dangerous. When he doesn't, it's a one line team that is going nowhere fast.

agreed, I haven`t had much to complain about this season as DK has appeared engaged far more than not, last night though.....putrid

 

[LouJersey]

points aside, Krejci obviously plays a lot more engaged with the top line then the second... He needs to bring the same effort level...maybe he's mad because his line mates aren't that good or whatever but he certainly doesn't play as urgent.

20 minutes last night, zero points, zero shots, zero hits....That's pretty hard to do.

 

[BruinDust]

JDB is a finisher. DK is a passer. Worrying about whether the guy has straight line speed or plays a slow down game is over thinking ****, IMO. JDB can fill the net up. DK needs to up his motor because when he wants, he can easily be effective on that line. Plus they brought up Cehlarik and he plays kind of middle of the road between DK and JDB styles.

But I mean ****, for the past 3 games, that line looked good. Last night JDB and Cehlarik still looked good. DK was invisible or flat out behind the play all night. So what changed in that 3 game span to last night? Effort. Or more importantly, lack of effort on DK's part.

This lack of consistency is why you don't give him Pasta and Marchand as wingers, IMO. He'd do this even if he played with them because it's who he is and has been for his entire career.

Is he really that much of a finisher though?

When is the last time he picked a corner from the top of the circles?

Or unleashed a slap-shot.

Or put the puck on net with a one-timer?

Or on break-away by deking out the goaltender?

He scores most of his goals from driving hard to the net with the puck, deflections, tip-ins, rebounds, etc.

I'm not absolving Krejci in any way, but the more I watch Debrusk I don't see him as a good fit for Krejci.

 

[LSCII]

Effort means nothing if players are sub par.
He tries every game..just a way to bash him. You cant tell at all what goes on in is mind

What did you think of his game last night? I've already said I thought Cehlarik and DeBrusk played a solid game, and were generating chances, but DK was constantly behind the play. Is that what you saw or did you see something different? In your opinion, did David Krejci have a good game last night? Serious question.

 

[KrejciMVP]

What did you think of his game last night? I've already said I thought Cehlarik and DeBrusk played a solid game, and were generating chances, but DK was constantly behind the play. Is that what you saw or did you see something different? In your opinion, did David Krejci have a good game last night? Serious question.

Not a great game but not trying would get him kicked off the team like Seguin was, so unless I hear this from the Bruins it not really true. Bruins are in a tough playoff hunt and everyone is trying

 

[esmith3283]

When 2/3rds of the line you're on is buzzing, and you're lagging behind every play, is it really hard to quantify though?

At what point does this become about DK instead of Sweeney? Or instead of his line mates? At what point does DK get to be a big boy and actually own his own play and effort? Let me know because I'll check back in then, since that's when a real, honest discussion about the guy will happen. For now, it's all about everyone else though.

Not even trying to be confrontational here, I'm fascinated by how folks see the game. My assessment on Krejci last night was average to slightly above average, line seemed to do well on possession but didn't make a ton happen. I also counted a lot of times where Krejci made some solid plays defensively to win back possession. I've watched a lot of hockey but admittedly never played.

The statements you make are pretty clear cut, any particular plays you are thinking of? What was the best example? Legit trying to learn more about what people see.

 

[LSCII]

Not even trying to be confrontational here, I'm fascinated by how folks see the game. My assessment on Krejci last night was average to slightly above average, line seemed to do well on possession but didn't make a ton happen. I also counted a lot of times where Krejci made some solid plays defensively to win back possession. I've watched a lot of hockey but admittedly never played.

The statements you make are pretty clear cut, any particular plays you are thinking of? What was the best example? Legit trying to learn more about what people see.

First period the team came out buzzing. DK was late on one where Cehlarik had a great scoring chance. Play went back the other way, and because he was slow entering the offensive zone, DK was back in place to make a defensive play. He had another drop pass at the point to nobody as well, which goes up my ass a mile given how often he does it.

But like Lou said, you get 20 minutes of TOI including a minute and a half on the PP, yet don't register a shot or a hit? Hard to do that and say he played well. To give you an idea of the rest of his line, Cehlarik and DeBrusk generated 7 shots between them. Where was DK? Invisible.

 

[NDiesel]

First period the team came out buzzing. DK was late on one where Cehlarik had a great scoring chance. Play went back the other way, and because he was slow entering the offensive zone, DK was back in place to make a defensive play. He had another drop pass at the point to nobody as well, which goes up my ass a mile given how often he does it.

But like Lou said, you get 20 minutes of TOI including a minute and a half on the PP, yet don't register a shot or a hit? Hard to do that and say he played well. To give you an idea of the rest of his line, Cehlarik and DeBrusk generated 7 shots between them. Where was DK? Invisible.

Not absolving him, I think he was pretty average last night, but I generally find it weird that we are going to judge a pass first player who averages 1.8 shots per game in his career and 0.74 hits per game on only those two stats.

He's a passer, unfortunately there is not stat to measure how well he is doing this unless his linemates happen to finish one of his passes.

 

[LSCII]

Not absolving him, I think he was pretty average last night, but I generally find it weird that we are going to judge a pass first player who averages 1.8 shots per game in his career and 0.74 hits per game on only those two stats.

He's a passer, unfortunately there is not stat to measure how well he is doing this unless his linemates happen to finish one of his passes.

Even a pass first guy should get at least one shot on net in a game, especially if he's getting 20+ minutes per night. It would be one thing if he was feeding JDB or PC last night and they were not scoring. But he was literally behind the play all night long, while they were still generating chances. It's why he looked so off to me. His line played fine but he was not part of it.

 

[the blank]

20 minutes last night, zero points, zero shots, zero hits....That's pretty hard to do.

Incomplete list of forwards to accomplish the feat this year:
Barkov (2 times)
Benn
Couturier (3 times)
Coyle
Crosby
Draisaitl (3 times)
Gaudreau
Granlund
Johansen
W Karlsson
Keller
Koivu
Panarin
Pavelski
Rantanen
Schmaltz
E Staal
Stastny
M Tkachuk

 

[LouJersey]

Incomplete list of forwards to accomplish the feat this year:
Barkov (2 times)
Benn
Couturier (3 times)
Coyle
Crosby
Draisaitl (3 times)
Gaudreau
Granlund
Johansen
W Karlsson
Keller
Koivu
Panarin
Pavelski
Rantanen
Schmaltz
E Staal
Stastny
M Tkachuk

ok? Still hard to do, no? Also, I wonder how many of these guys had 11 games with no shots.

 

[patty59]

ok? Still hard to do, no?

Apparently since only top end guys have been doing it all year.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Hopefully a trade happens soon and Debrusk goes to the 3rd line, doesn’t take a genius to see it hasnt been working. JD with Frederic and Backes would be interesting.

 

[LouJersey]

Apparently since only top end guys have been doing it all year.

19 players doing it 28 games? Figure 50 games per player so in about 3% of games. Not hard to do?

 

[KrejciMVP]

who cares, get him a winger. Other teams are addressing needs why not the Bruins

 

[the blank]

ok? Still hard to do, no?

The hard part is being trusted enough by your coach to play a third of the game. That’s why the list looks impressive.

Always baffled by the Krejci thread.

 

[LouJersey]

The hard part is being trusted enough by your coach to play a third of the game. That’s why the list looks impressive.

Always baffled by the Krejci thread.

Me too. Not sure why he’s not held to the standard other 7.25 mil per year players are. Highest paid player on the team, needs to bring it every night like #37.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Me too. Not sure why he’s not held to the standard other 7.25 mil per year players are. Highest paid player on the team, needs to bring it every night like #37.

He does. Just a fabrication he doesn't.

 

[Pia8988]

Is he really that much of a finisher though?

When is the last time he picked a corner from the top of the circles?

Or unleashed a slap-shot.

Or put the puck on net with a one-timer?

Or on break-away by deking out the goaltender?

He scores most of his goals from driving hard to the net with the puck, deflections, tip-ins, rebounds, etc.

I'm not absolving Krejci in any way, but the more I watch Debrusk I don't see him as a good fit for Krejci.

DeBrusk honestly is pretty useless for sustained offensive zone time, awful on the PP. Pretty much does most of his work rushing down the wing and firing it on net. The Toronto center game him a mythical status which he isn't and has gotten a big pass on a bad year.

Effort player 100%, but a has a lot he could improve on.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

When 2/3rds of the line you're on is buzzing, and you're lagging behind every play, is it really hard to quantify though?

At what point does this become about DK instead of Sweeney? Or instead of his line mates? At what point does DK get to be a big boy and actually own his own play and effort? Let me know because I'll check back in then, since that's when a real, honest discussion about the guy will happen. For now, it's all about everyone else though.

You're right; all true; the only thing that saves his arse is that he usually comes alive in the playoffs. I hate that he's getting paid so much money, but it is what it is.

 

[Beesfan]

DeBrusk honestly is pretty useless for sustained offensive zone time, awful on the PP. Pretty much does most of his work rushing down the wing and firing it on net. The Toronto center game him a mythical status which he isn't and has gotten a big pass on a bad year.

Effort player 100%, but a has a lot he could improve on.

I don't agree with this. DeBrusk is on pace for 25 goals this year. He is definitely not Pastrnak, but he is a legit top 6 winger in my opinion. I would like to see him improve outside shooting though.

 

[Blowfish]

I thought he struggled a little last night...with the exception of the feed to fumbling "Heinen" he was a little out of synch.

 

[Pia8988]

I don't agree with this. DeBrusk is on pace for 25 goals this year. He is definitely not Pastrnak, but he is a legit top 6 winger in my opinion. I would like to see him improve outside shooting though.

He is scoring goals at a decent rate, his 5 on 5 goal scoring is just above last season. He has 5 PP goals, 4 on the top unit where he absolutely doesn't belong. He doesn't help his team sustain zone time, he's not great defensively. He has a lot to work on. Jake DeBrusk is basically has 2 moves, fly down the wing and shoot, bang in rebounds.

What is truly amazing. Has a top 6 winger with #1 PP time with a very good PP ever gotten less than 10 assists in a single year? He got 27 last season, how can he possibly only have 4 all year?

 

[LSCII]

He is scoring goals at a decent rate, his 5 on 5 goal scoring is just above last season. He has 5 PP goals, 4 on the top unit where he absolutely doesn't belong. He doesn't help his team sustain zone time, he's not great defensively. He has a lot to work on. Jake DeBrusk is basically has 2 moves, fly down the wing and shoot, bang in rebounds.

What is truly amazing. Has a top 6 winger with #1 PP time with a very good PP ever gotten less than 10 assists in a single year? He got 27 last season, how can he possibly only have 4 all year?

Because Krejci won't even shoot very much any more and the other wing has been the team cycling through whatever 4th line stiff/AHL call up they had to play there at the moment? I get that DK's a pass first guy, but he at least used to shoot the puck more than he is now. Prior to his goal scoring uptick, which was only when he played with Marchand and Pasta, he had monthly totals of 2 for October, 0 for November, the uptick in December with 5, and the fall back to earth in January with 3. And of the 3 in January, they came in one stretch sandwiched between an 8 game stretch of no goals and a 5 game stretch (and counting) of no goals. That inconsistency is why I get frustrated with him as a player. It's maddening.

At this point, the Bruins should be looking to add a second line center so they can bump DK down to the third line, where his peaks and valleys won't create nearly as much negative impact on the rest of that line.

 

[Pia8988]

Because Krejci won't even shoot very much any more and the other wing has been the team cycling through whatever 4th line stiff/AHL call up they had to play there at the moment? I get that DK's a pass first guy, but he at least used to shoot the puck more than he is now. Prior to his goal scoring uptick, which was only when he played with Marchand and Pasta, he had monthly totals of 2 for October, 0 for November, the uptick in December with 5, and the fall back to earth in January with 3. And of the 3 in January, they came in one stretch sandwiched between an 8 game stretch of no goals and a 5 game stretch (and counting) of no goals. That inconsistency is why I get frustrated with him as a player. It's maddening.

At this point, the Bruins should be looking to add a second line center so they can bump DK down to the third line, where his peaks and valleys won't create nearly as much negative impact on the rest of that line.

DeBrusk should be bumped down. Krejci has a volume shooter, but this season DeBrusk is playing more like Vatrano did his first time up and just throwing everything on net.

Krejci is more than capable of playing 2C, DeBrusk is playing like a 3rd liner.