Player Discussion David Krejci. IV

[HellFish89]

Bergeron at this stage of his career is light years ahead of Krejci.

You don't think Krejci would be the one with a 70 + pts season and Bergeron a 60 - pts season if they change place? Krejci is playing with 45pts winger while Bergeron is playing with 80pts wingers. I sure hope Bergeron is producing a bit more than Krejci right now. Nothing against Bergeron, but if the big line was form last year with Krejci on it people would have a totaly different perception of who is light years ahead.

 

[Tampbear]

I feel like like no matter what happens, year after year Krejci produces the same and people have the same complaints about him. I don't think he is worth his current contract but he is still a solid second line center when he has somewhat capable wings. He does lift those around them when they are decently capable, Beleskey had his most points in a season playing next to him before becoming a complete waste of a player. I would like to see how he does playing with Debrusk and Heinen who I think are both capable 2nd line players albeit with some inconsistencies as they are still very young.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

DK is bullied now?

Christ

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

DeBrusk-Krejci-Heinen will be a great line for the Bruins this year.

 

[Dr Hook]

DK is bullied now?

Christ

I know He is a NHL player- the guy has gone into the crease with Chris Pronger and Derian Hatcher for crying out loud.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I know He is a NHL player- the guy has gone into the crease with Chris Pronger and Derian Hatcher for crying out loud.

Ya but if you read his interview he it upset him. Sure many don't mind sparring online but he mentioned it, it is what it is

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Will be starting a GoFundMe page for the bullying towards DK.

PM me for details

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

You don't think Krejci would be the one with a 70 + pts season and Bergeron a 60 - pts season if they change place? Krejci is playing with 45pts winger while Bergeron is playing with 80pts wingers. I sure hope Bergeron is producing a bit more than Krejci right now. Nothing against Bergeron, but if the big line was form last year with Krejci on it people would have a totaly different perception of who is light years ahead.

If you can't tell by watching these guys who is the more effective player out of Bergeron and Krejci, I don't know what to tell ya.

There is chasm between the two. Your take here is ludicrous and untenable.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

If you can't tell by watching these guys who is the more effective player out of Bergeron and Krejci, I don't know what to tell ya.

There is chasm between the two. Your take here is ludicrous and untenable.

He is an ingnemia I will agree with that

 

[Dr Hook]

Ya but if you read his interview he it upset him. Sure many don't mind sparring online but he mentioned it, it is what it is

I know he mentioned the internet trade rumors bothered him when we were in the running for Tavares but I don't remember him complaining about people picking on him. At any rate, this is a hockey forum where we talk hockey; we criticize or praise players, the management, the coaches, the ownership. None of it rises to bullying- this is what fans do, whether here, or on the couch during a game, or sitting in the sports bar.

EDIT: If there was more to the social media harassment, then I just don't recall reading it, and for the record, no one here that I have seen or know about condones any of that silly crap.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

He is an ingnemia I will agree with that

Yeah and I'm a Krejci supporter too. Not trying to cut into him.

That's just a really bull***t argument and deserves calling out.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

If you can't tell by watching these guys who is the more effective player out of Bergeron and Krejci, I don't know what to tell ya.

There is chasm between the two. Your take here is ludicrous and untenable.

i don't think anyone is arguing that Krejci is as good as Bergeron. Bergeron has always been the better all-around player and in the last couple years has found another gear offensively. But Bergeron consistently plays with the two best wingers on the team by far. The chasm between Bergeron's wingers and Krejci's wingers is waaaaay bigger than the chasm between Krejci and Bergeron. There's a reason their offensive numbers were nearly the same for years until Marchand & Pastrnak matured into elite players. Krejci obviously wouldn't be as good on the first line as Bergeron is because Krejci has always struggled with consistency, but i'm confident Bergeron wouldn't be pushing 80 points and 30 goals every year playing with the mix of rookies and grinders that Krejci has been stuck with since his Lucic/Horton/Loui days.

 

[chizzler]

i don't think anyone is arguing that Krejci is as good as Bergeron. Bergeron has always been the better all-around player and in the last couple years has found another gear offensively. But Bergeron consistently plays with the two best wingers on the team by far. The chasm between Bergeron's wingers and Krejci's wingers is waaaaay bigger than the chasm between Krejci and Bergeron. There's a reason their offensive numbers were nearly the same for years until Marchand & Pastrnak matured into elite players. Krejci obviously wouldn't be as good on the first line as Bergeron is because Krejci has always struggled with consistency, but i'm confident Bergeron wouldn't be pushing 80 points and 30 goals every year playing with the mix of rookies and grinders that Krejci has been stuck with since his Lucic/Horton/Loui days.

Bergeron earned that right to play with both of his wingers. Don’t know that Krejci has earned anything with all his injuries etc. I’ve been on this wagon along with some posters here for a while. Ive always said that he was a problem for the team. His status didn’t merit the money and has handcuffed the team in certain aspects. As Krejci goes, so don’t the Bruins. He is at best a third line center. Bruins need a second line center. It’s been that way for a while. That’s why they went after Tavares.

 

[Ladyfan]

You don't think Krejci would be the one with a 70 + pts season and Bergeron a 60 - pts season if they change place? Krejci is playing with 45pts winger while Bergeron is playing with 80pts wingers. I sure hope Bergeron is producing a bit more than Krejci right now. Nothing against Bergeron, but if the big line was form last year with Krejci on it people would have a totaly different perception of who is light years ahead.

sorry I disagree. Bergeron is and will always be far better than DK for so many reasons.

I also don't get why DK is wearing the "A". He doesn't look like a leader from where I sit.

BTW...I like DK I just think he is way overpaid.

 

[Ladyfan]

Bergeron earned that right to play with both of his wingers. Don’t know that Krejci has earned anything with all his injuries etc. I’ve been on this wagon along with some posters here for a while. Ive always said that he was a problem for the team. His status didn’t merit the money and has handcuffed the team in certain aspects. As Krejci goes, so don’t the Bruins. He is at best a third line center. Bruins need a second line center. It’s been that way for a while. That’s why they went after Tavares.

He makes too much $$$ for a third line center.

 

[chizzler]

He makes too much $$$ for a third line center.

It's what he is. He doesn't play like a second line center.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Bergeron earned that right to play with both of his wingers. Don’t know that Krejci has earned anything with all his injuries etc. I’ve been on this wagon along with some posters here for a while. Ive always said that he was a problem for the team. His status didn’t merit the money and has handcuffed the team in certain aspects. As Krejci goes, so don’t the Bruins. He is at best a third line center. Bruins need a second line center. It’s been that way for a while. That’s why they went after Tavares.

Gonna be hilarious if he takes the points lead on the team and you'll still have to post this stuff

At this point we're watching a comedy show. Quite clear by posts like this you're rooting for failure so no reason to take you seriously

Keep it going Krejci, just keep putting up points

 

[Krupp]

There WAS a time when he looked like he could be a clear cut #1 center, in those days when he had Lucic and Horton, as well as that brief time with Iggy....he looked excellent in those days...

He had some real talent to help him distribute and carry line. No disrespect intended to the young'uns, but Debrusk and Heinen are what they are; kids playing in their second official season in the NFL. Krejci cannot drive the engine of a line all by himself.

That said, hopefully they start scoring more. Krejci had 24 goals last season. I'd hardly call him a sham center or anything. Frustrating? Sure. But not overall the biggest concern with the team. There was always a chance one of the young guns could regress this season

 

[chizzler]

Gonna be hilarious if he takes the points lead on the team and you'll still have to post this stuff

At this point we're watching a comedy show. Quite clear by posts like this you're rooting for failure so no reason to take you seriously

Keep it going Krejci, just keep putting up points

I’m not rooting for failure, just the opposite. Apparently you can’t get over the old days of him being effective. Sure he gets points here and there. He’s on the ice more being a second line center. He also sees PP time.
His game isn’t effective anymore. Slowing down the game is what is discribed when analyststs discribed him. That’s not today’s game. Players are to fast and just rush him. He’s a turnover machine. I get that your a fan, but eventually you will have to see him for what he is, a third line center. Horrible contract at the time. I hated it as much as Sieds, and Kelly’s contracts.

 

[Dr Hook]

I’m not rooting for failure, just the opposite. Apparently you can’t get over the old days of him being effective. Sure he gets points here and there. He’s on the ice more being a second line center. He also sees PP time.
His game isn’t effective anymore. Slowing down the game is what is discribed when analyststs discribed him. That’s not today’s game. Players are to fast and just rush him. He’s a turnover machine. I get that your a fan, but eventually you will have to see him for what he is, a third line center. Horrible contract at the time. I hated it as much as Sieds, and Kelly’s contracts.

Haha your turn in the barrel. You might as well stop now- it won't go anywhere good.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I’m not rooting for failure, just the opposite. Apparently you can’t get over the old days of him being effective. Sure he gets points here and there. He’s on the ice more being a second line center. He also sees PP time.
His game isn’t effective anymore. Slowing down the game is what is discribed when analyststs discribed him. That’s not today’s game. Players are to fast and just rush him. He’s a turnover machine. I get that your a fan, but eventually you will have to see him for what he is, a third line center. Horrible contract at the time. I hated it as much as Sieds, and Kelly’s contracts.

Except he's producing which shreds your whole argument. I know we're all told to ignore his stats but thats illogical. Time to start watching the game or find another sport, I hear the celtics are gonna be good

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

i don't think anyone is arguing that Krejci is as good as Bergeron. Bergeron has always been the better all-around player and in the last couple years has found another gear offensively. But Bergeron consistently plays with the two best wingers on the team by far. The chasm between Bergeron's wingers and Krejci's wingers is waaaaay bigger than the chasm between Krejci and Bergeron. There's a reason their offensive numbers were nearly the same for years until Marchand & Pastrnak matured into elite players. Krejci obviously wouldn't be as good on the first line as Bergeron is because Krejci has always struggled with consistency, but i'm confident Bergeron wouldn't be pushing 80 points and 30 goals every year playing with the mix of rookies and grinders that Krejci has been stuck with since his Lucic/Horton/Loui days.

Read the last line of the post I quoted. The argument (in short) is that the wingers are making the center. If Krejci traded places with Bergeron, the concensus would be that Krejci was light years the better player. This is bull***t.

For years, the top offensive wingers flanked David Krejci... Not Bergeron. During those years, I never felt that Krejci was the better player. Neither was it the prevailing sentiment of these boards.

Why? Because we watch the games over the stat charts and we're smart enough to understand the difference.

Giving Bergeron the top wingers on the team and trusting him with the top offensive responsibility has put him in the conversation for league MVP. Remind me the last time Krejci was spoken of in the same light.

 

[Dr Hook]

Read the last line of the post I quoted. The argument (in short) is that the wingers are making the center. If Krejci traded places with Bergeron, the concensus would be that Krejci was light years the better player. This is bull***t.

For years, the top offensive wingers flanked David Krejci... Not Bergeron. During those years, I never felt that Krejci was the better player. Neither was it the prevailing sentiment of these boards.

Why? Because we watch the games over the stat charts and we're smart enough to understand the difference.

Giving Bergeron the top wingers on the team and trusting him with the top offensive responsibility has put him in the conversation for league MVP. Remind me the last time Krejci was spoken of in the same light.

I know you are trying to make a point here, but really you need to stop bullying David. It's mean.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Please tell me that you are not comparing Krejci to Stamkos or Crosby

I'm not just talking about this season. Every year we have this discussion about having to get Krejci better wings so he produces. At $7.25m, it's not a discussion you should need to have. Cassidy should stick Bjork or Heinen on one wing with DeBrusk on the other and let them gel. For the money DK is getting, he should be able to bring out the best in both those young players.

Krejci wasn't doing much UNTIL Nordstrom was put on that line, so I'm not sure that's the road you want to go down?

I’m just pointing out an interesting stat. 3rd line has been David Krejci is almost out producing two of the best players of the era combined.

If you think Krejci should turn rookies into 30 goal scorers than you’re just setting yourself up for disappointment every year. Bergeron couldn't do it either.

There is definitely hypocrisy between Krejci and Bergeron. If Reilly Smith hasn’t scored in forever on Bergeron’s line or Seguin isn’t producing, it’s all their fault and no one even mentions Bergeron. On the other hand It’s Krejci’s job to make some rookies look like top 6 players.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Jagr is another one that couldn’t produce with Bergeron, but no one blamed Bergeron. I thought he’s supposed to get the best out of his wingers?