There is more to the game then advanced statistics, but if you believe in advanced stats then well **** I guess we're not making the playoffs boys time to cancel the season
and no I have not put a ton of research into advanced stats
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There is more to the game then advanced statistics, but if you believe in advanced stats then well **** I guess we're not making the playoffs boys time to cancel the season
and no I have not put a ton of research into advanced stats
KuleminFan41
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You brought up penalties as if a way to say he isn't that good. It was a silly argument you brought up. Especially as you say "hes just a third liner" , quite frankly he's played quite a fair amount on the 2nd line this season and done just fine. He's versatile and much needed on this team. But to try to down play his efforts as its just early on would be ridiculous. As I said, since its early on why complain that he has been on the penalty box as much as he has? If he wont keep up his production, what makes you think he'll lead the team in penalties?
Thats my point, you're just ignoring something to suit your claim and its just silly
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that article doesn't really say much. Him stating he's a Toronto Maple Leaf doesn't mean he's happy here.
& I'm not going to argue because I don't know, I'm just repeating something I've heard from someone else. I hope its not true
LeafOfBread
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I never said there wasn't, these are simply a supplement to what I've watched with my own eyes.
And no, believing in advanced stats does not mean I have to believe we will miss the playoffs. There is no stat that tells you that.
What's silly is making up claims that I said Bolland wasn't good. I never said that once... If you actually go read what I wrote I said he's been effective and a welcome addition... I'm not even sure what to say to you.
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I'm really happy he's having such a fantastic year (Even though I'm a Hawks fan I'm from Toronto and the Leafs are the team I like most after the Hawks).
He's a really good player. People who point to last year as a way of denigrating him (not in this thread, but in general) are a bit offside. Last year the Hawks tried to turn him into our 2c (a gap for our team) and it didn't work out well...on top of that, he played injured at the end of the season and into the playoffs. All of that created the impression that he was a worse player than he actually was.
The other thing that some people forget to mention was the reality of the Hawks' cap situation - he's a UFA at the end of this year and the Hawks' are heavy on prospects/current players who could fill his role - so the Hawks dealt him when they could get the most for him. When he was traded from Chicago there were comments I read that made it sound like he just wasn't good enough for the Hawks, and that's not accurate at all.
I hope he continues to work out well for you and, if appropriate for the Leafs, he re-signs with you.
He's a really good player. People who point to last year as a way of denigrating him (not in this thread, but in general) are a bit offside. Last year the Hawks tried to turn him into our 2c (a gap for our team) and it didn't work out well...on top of that, he played injured at the end of the season and into the playoffs. All of that created the impression that he was a worse player than he actually was.
The other thing that some people forget to mention was the reality of the Hawks' cap situation - he's a UFA at the end of this year and the Hawks' are heavy on prospects/current players who could fill his role - so the Hawks dealt him when they could get the most for him. When he was traded from Chicago there were comments I read that made it sound like he just wasn't good enough for the Hawks, and that's not accurate at all.
I hope he continues to work out well for you and, if appropriate for the Leafs, he re-signs with you.
I'm just glad we have Bolland. He's good so far. I guess we'll have to wait and see how things work out for next years contracst.
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We have to kepp this guy.
He gets Bozak money and has to stay. This is a good guy for Kadri to learn from.
He gets Bozak money and has to stay. This is a good guy for Kadri to learn from.
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Another Hawks' fan chiming in here. To add to what UWT said, The only question mark with Bolland is the injuries. When healthy, he is one of the best shut-down guys in the league. Come playoffs he will be one of the most important guys on your team.
Most Hawks were sad to see him go.
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colchar
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I guess you don't get that Bolland is filling that role too and that you need more than one player doing that?
That doesn't mean what you seem to think it means...
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colchar
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About Bolland.
He hates it here. I can show you far worse if you would like. Only 3 years,....great.
That doesn't mean what you seem to think it means...
He hates it here. I can show you far worse if you would like. Only 3 years,....great.
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IMHO the team is just better in so many ways, with Bolland in it.
I hope he stays around a while.
If he hates being in Toronto yet continues to play as well as he does...............................
I hope he stays around a while.
If he hates being in Toronto yet continues to play as well as he does...............................
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Wasn't that the reason all the grabovski lovers blamed him for struggling? In Carlyle's system we need a good defensive center and grabo wasn't a fit. Bolland is a fit and actually does what is asked of him.
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I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to back up their claims that he hates it here.
Bolland is from Toronto so I doubt it is the city that he hates (why would he hate being around his friends and family), especially as he has brought the Cup here both times he has won it. So that implies that it is the team that he hates and I challenge anyone to prove that claim.
He's been so great on the 3rd line compared to what we had before(Glass Connolly, Lack Lombardi). Hope we can keep him around for a bit. He does seem to take quite a few penalties for my liking though.
He's just what the doctor ordered for our third line and is definitely one guy you want to keep around.
On another note, he somehow manages to come off as more nervous in interviews than Kessel. Impressive.
On another note, he somehow manages to come off as more nervous in interviews than Kessel. Impressive.
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You're either full or it or you're getting info from someone who is full of it.
He's been quite happy since coming to Toronto. He's raved about the coaching so far, really likes the room and from what I was told would like to start negotiating a deal sometime in December if the Leafs would be up to it. The only possible thing that could be viewed as him or his family being negative in any way is his family were hesitant about hangers on whenever the topic about him coming to Toronto was ever brought up.
