Dave Hakstol Part VII: Hak out? Q in?

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

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The previous thread was closed (1,000+ posts) Dave Hakstol Part VI: I See A Bad Coach And I Want Him Painted Black

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[Chinatown88]

 

[Adam Warlock]

Fletchers gonna lose the fanbase already if he doesnt fire him.

What sucks is it will likely happen tomorrow if it does.

So....we wait.

 

[ValeriKamensky]

Good morning USA, fire Hakstol

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Fletchers gonna lose the fanbase already if he doesnt fire him.

What sucks is it will likely happen tomorrow if it does.

So....we wait.

During the Eagles game tonight.

 

[HART2019]

I agree with most of this forum and HATE the personnel decisions he makes. Keeping Weiss out there all the time, Sanheim and Lindblom riding pine, his juggling of lines, etc.

I am wondering what's everyone's take is on his on ice strategy? Why do the Flyers continue to lose and why are players like Patrick/Prov are not taking that next step and starting to succeed? How can JVR score 35 last year with Toronto and is now an average player? Does this have something to do with Hakstol's college coaching style? Is he to conservative for the NHL? Are the assistant coaches not getting it done?

My worry is players like Lindblom, Patrick, Hagg, Sanheim, Stolarz, even Prov and Ghost go elsewhere and become great players and we Flyer fans are left scratching our heads.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

The time is nigh

 

[FLYguy3911]

 

[AdamParrot]

SEVEN. SEVEN. SEVEN. PARTS.

IT'S f***ING UNBELIEVABLE!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[mja]

"mja? mja Conners?"

"Now, don't you tell me you don't remember me because I sure as heckfire remember you."

"deadhead...Ryerson?"

"I have a law degree."
"Of course you do."
"So, that's why I ramble on endlessly with convoluted arguments. For example, take the Flyers coaching situation..."

[Four hours later]

"...so that's why changing the coach isn't going to help. Amirite, amirite, or amirite?"

[Three hours later]

"You must see that I'm right, he has no choice but to play MacDonald 20 minutes a night."

"Well, I gotta get going dead, I'll try to avoid looking at your posts in the future."
"Watch out for my next post, it's a doozy!"

 

[deadhead]

The funny thing is I'll read the same complaints when the new coach comes in, even if it's Q.

The reason is simple, fans have unrealistic expectations.
Provorov is 21, playing top D-man minutes (last year, almost all the D-men playing his minutes were 25 or older).
Sanheim is 22, and working his way into a top 4 role
Myers is 21, and will probably be up this spring
Only Ghost is "underachieving" for his age, and there may be something physical going on

TK is 21, Lindblom is 22, Patrick is 20.

Now some players have been revealed, Laughton at 24 is what he is, a top 4th line guy.
Couts took a step up at 22, another at 25, not every player arrives as a superstar out of the draft.

So coaches sometimes push, sometimes punish, sometimes baby prospects.
You see this all over the league, look at Boston, some of their prospects get big minutes, others were returned to the AHL.

As this team gets much younger the next two years, expect a lot of inconsistency.
Look at Winnipeg, 99 points in 2014-15, then 78, 87, 114 and they're on pace for 110 this year.

The only way to avoid this is to trade a lot of prospects for proven NHL players, you'll have a better team in the short-run, but one with a lower upside in the long-run, i.e., the Wild.

 

[Striiker]

How's Fletcher supposed to see my threat if we have a new thread?!!

 

[Hakroach]

Fire Hakstol!

 

[klutch]

Can I place a bet on Hak being fired today?

 

[Beef Invictus]

The funny thing is I'll read the same complaints when the new coach comes in, even if it's Q.

The reason is simple, fans have unrealistic expectations.
Provorov is 21, playing top D-man minutes (last year, almost all the D-men playing his minutes were 25 or older).
Sanheim is 22, and working his way into a top 4 role
Myers is 21, and will probably be up this spring
Only Ghost is "underachieving" for his age, and there may be something physical going on

TK is 21, Lindblom is 22, Patrick is 20.

Now some players have been revealed, Laughton at 24 is what he is, a top 4th line guy.
Couts took a step up at 22, another at 25, not every player arrives as a superstar out of the draft.

So coaches sometimes push, sometimes punish, sometimes baby prospects.
You see this all over the league, look at Boston, some of their prospects get big minutes, others were returned to the AHL.

As this team gets much younger the next two years, expect a lot of inconsistency.
Look at Winnipeg, 99 points in 2014-15, then 78, 87, 114 and they're on pace for 110 this year.

The only way to avoid this is to trade a lot of prospects for proven NHL players, you'll have a better team in the short-run, but one with a lower upside in the long-run, i.e., the Wild.

I remember when Stevens supporters said the exact same thing.


It didn't happen.

 

[BigToe]

 

[Rich Nixon]

It's all over now.

 

[Jray42]

 

[kudymen]

I remember when Stevens supporters said the exact same thing.


It didn't happen.

Another funny thing - he is not reading what you're saying for the first time. Numerous people said it. Seems like it doesn't matter

 

[Hurricane28]

The waittttiinngggg is the hardest part

 

[Oskar Man]

A few guys in here will have that on repeat

 

[WIP CALLER]

Another funny thing - he is not reading what you're saying for the first time. Numerous people said it. Seems like it doesn't matter

Because he's literally like a NPC from action RPGs. Question something outside of his 5 pre programmed rants and arguments and instead of trying to answer, he just repeats himself.

 

[Danko]

Well...we’re waiting

 

[Starat327]

Because he's literally like a NPC from action RPGs. Question something outside of his 5 pre programmed rants and arguments and instead of trying to answer he just repeats himself.

I liken it more to Woody from Toy Story. Pull the string, get one of 4 responses.

Except Woody was likable.