Salary Cap: Danault and Armia in arbitration

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  1. Zorba

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    Well if Peca got 1.3 million i fully expext Danault to make 7 million a year
     
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    I think he ends up in the 3-3.25 a year for 4 years range.
     
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    Wait...the new guy is already fighting with Bergevin about money?
     
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    They got him last week, arbitration is just the due process, pretty sure they are negotiating at the same time.
     
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    Ahhh so thats where BergeVin’s ego got hurt. I get it now.
     
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    We got cap apace lets use it on Daneault, 8 years 6.5 instead of 7

    Then tell pacioretty, sorry no more money for you. Then trade Pacioretty for Thorton 1v1.

    Then re-sign DD 4.5 @ 5 years
     
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    No need to panic. As others have said, opting in for arbitration often only serves to set a deadline for teams and players to come to an agreement.
     
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    Any thoughts on what Armia might be asking for?

    I think the Habs will look to go long term with him if they can get him on a good AAV. I could see something around $3M/per for 5 years (not unlike what Bergevin has offered Shaw and Gallagher, although a bit less). This would lock him up for the prime ages of 25-30 and ensure a stable mid-6 winger for the next few years as we transition.
     
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    Danault trying to cash in on the MaxPac money tree leaves Montreal and turns him into a 25-30 point 3rd liner.

    He chose a good agent.
     
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    Isn't Danault like, the best NATURAL center on our roster now? The only thing stopping him from being our 1C is the ridiculous Drouin experiment.
     
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    No doubt he wants Andrew Shaw money. Danault's ppg average is actually better than Shaw and actually hit 40 pts.
     
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    No reason to be worried, it's only normal for a player in this position to file for arbitration to have more options if ever he can't get a deal with the team. Bergevin is known to give less money and term to RFA (which has not always played to his advantage).

    Now they can negociate and become more of a priority because of that deadline. I expect this to be resolved quickly for both of these players. If I would take a guess Armia probably wants more term and Danault more money.

    Now if even they go to arbitration, it will be interesting.
     
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    Danault isn't proven like Shaw was.
    He has 1 season with over 30 points.
    Shaw, on the other hand, had 5 good nhl seasons. He also had 2 stanley cups and was a playoff performer. He played almost twice the number of nhl games Danault did.

    My guess would be Danault signs for around 3 mil.
     
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    something between 2.5 - 3M is fair value IMO
     
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    Not a chance.
     
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    For sure, let's also pry Subban out of Nashville for Weber...wait...

    Danault should be around 3-3.5M per season...if not walk away.
     
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    In what world is Danault NOT worth 3.5M$, exactly?
     
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    Most players don't actually get to arbitration and agree to a deal before. It's just part of the process.
     
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    Filing for arbitration is not a dispute. It's just the process. Nothing stops them from negotiating and coming to an agreement at any moment. It will be a dispute if they get to the hearing.
     
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    on first sight it isnt' but at the end it is. You go into a room with your GM and your agent and your GM brings advanced statistics on why you should get less than what you demanded, in general it end well but it still is a bad way to have your players trust and a good way to lose your players trust.

    it's never good to have your GM blasting your weaknesses in front of you and why you deserve less.
     
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    What backlash? Danault is an irrelevant, interchangeable bottom six forward. As an RFA, his choice is to take either what the arbitrator or Bergevin decides to give him.
     
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    It's exactly what I said. It's a dispute if they get to the hearing. It's not a dispute when they file for arbitration.

    Players have a deadline to file for arbitration. This is why they wait until the final moment to file for one. If they didn't have a deadline or if they do file for arbitration a few days before the deadline, I can see how that may mean there's a dispute.

    Right now, all this means is the players exercised their rights as professional athletes under the CBA. At this moment, there's nothing more to it.
     
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    In what world Danault who put an average of 40pts\season in the last 2 years (while playing with top players) is worth more than Domi who put an average of 52pts\season in the last 3 years?
     
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    Danault is negotiating from a position of strength. We have no centers so of course he is going to ask for more than above market value.
     
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    One of them is a Center, the other isn't.

    Besides, 3.5mil implies a long-term deal and "eating" some UFA years. Domi is nowhere as close to UFA years and his deal doesn't "eat" any.
     
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