The Athletic Dan Boyle Talks About Todd McLellan
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Comparing every potential hire to one of the worst coaches in modern NHL history isn't much betterOk keep buying all the puff pieces they're trying to jam down our throats.
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True, shouldn't have directed it at just you. I've seen people say similar things about AV, Maclean, etc.
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First off, explain to me how Nashville players were oh so complimentary of Housley. Second, I don't compare what any players say to what fans here say. I don't give a crap about what fans' opinions are, only whatever supporting information they post about a coach's style, strategy, effectiveness, etc. It's the info that matters, not anyone's opinion. Same for players.
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Just give me a coach with multiple playoff trips and 100 point seasons. That is Mclellan and AV. Give me either. I am happy with one or the other
Ok keep buying all the puff pieces they're trying to jam down our throats.
Tell me how McLellan and Housley are similar hockey coaches?
He was an assistant coach in Nashville, there’s a BIG difference.
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Neither believe in analytics (even quoted as saying as much). Neither believe in line matching. Both are notorious for overplaying vets and terrible lineup decisions(Lucic with McDavid for 30ish games despite only scoring 1 goal).
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Name me one coach who hasn’t had a head scratching decision. Hell, name me another poor lineup decision from Mclellan during his time in Edmonton. What about San Jose? Any poor lineup decisions there?
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Yes, I agree and made note of the difference in my earlier post. I'm not upset if McLellan gets hired, I just won't give as much credit to what a players says about a coach in the future.
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Except W-L record, coaching history, playoff performance or maybe lack thereof in conference finals but you go right on.
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Odds are any coach will fail with the Sabres. Botts hasn't been impressive. There's no telling when the Pegulas will activate. We can cover our bases by saying we tried to warn about these issues, but EVERYBODY wanted this hire.
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Bylsma has a better record and better playoff performance but you go right on. Easy to be a coach of stacked teams. Give Housley the same teams and you probably get the same damn results. I didn't see him doing anything amazing while he coached the Oilers...and that's exactly what we are, the Oilers of the east minus all those 1st overalls.
Somehow this coach that had two 70 point seasons with the Oilers is going to drag this mess of a team anywhere? The delusions are starting early for next season.
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Well he didn’t realize TM was a good coach until he retired. Whose to say our players are gonna realize that while they are playing.
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Didn't Babcock bring up xG to the media like 2 days ago?
And maybe if Q thought about analytics he wouldn't have so grossly mishandled the guy who played top 4 minutes for the Cup winner.
A coach who doesn't care about analytics is a coach I want no part of.
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He didn't think about it because he just went out there when he was told and they won games. If we're winning, who cares?
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Multiple playoff trips and 100-point seasons are expected with the roster talent McLellan had in San Jose, and AV in Vancouver. Vigneault's accomplishments with NYR are perhaps more impressive. A lot more balanced there, IMO. But then again, Lundqvist.
Regardless, I don't think those hiring criteria are anywhere near the most important criteria.
Choosing between two or three "finalist" candidates for the Sabres, I would want the coach who:
1. Has proven experience getting incrementally more out of players than their innate capability.
2. Has proven experience developing young players faster than their innate trajectory, and more importantly, lacks examples of ruining them.
3. Will attract and assemble the better staff of assistants.
4. Uses information from multiple sources to make decisions.
5. Holds players, staff, and assistants accountable.
Either of the two (TM, AV) are miles better than Housley.
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Babs did say that, but you should see Leafs fans, particularly the ones that like stats and charts, blow up because his lineup choices very rarely take them into account. It's entertaining.
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Well if we are in deed the Oil of the east then I should think Phil Housely would have at least gotten us to the second round of the playoffs in one of his first two years no?
Carry on.
