His rookie season was also the 05-06 one when top-end players hit ridiculous amounts of points. 7 players broke the 100 point barrier and 14 players scored 90 points. Also worth mentioning Ovechkin - who won the Calder over your precious 18yo Crosby - was 20 by the end of the season due to his late birthday and lockout year before. But I believe you don't really care about these things or the fact that McDavid was hurt in his rookie season and got two Rosses straight at the ages of 20 & 21, Mr. Crosbyshow...Lol.
Crosby did 102 points at 18 and 120 points at 19.
The next one who Will do this is not born yet.....so he is generetional
He won the art ross and the hart trophy at...19...
And...we never really seen his real prime because he almost not played at 23,24 and 25 years old...
His rookie season was also the 05-06 one when top-end players hit ridiculous amounts of points. 7 players broke the 100 point barrier and 14 players scored 90 points. Also worth mentioning Ovechkin - who won the Calder over your precious 18yo Crosby - was 20 by the end of the season due to his late birthday and lockout year before. But I believe you don't really care about these things or the fact that McDavid was hurt in his rookie season and got two Rosses straight at the ages of 20 & 21, Mr. Crosbyshow...
I think you mean : here’s my list of the 4 greatest players of all time.Generational: Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Howe.
Who's this Dahlin?
Dahlin will be a Norris candidate. Which is great. Generational?? Doubtful, I’ve only ever seen five players in my 50 years of watching.
Orr
Gretzky
Lemieux
Crosby
McDavid
Hm: Hasek (7 Vezina)
Ovi, Crosby, and potentially McJesus aren't generational? The 4th in my head was Malkin but who knows what he would have been on a top line so I suppose you can exclude him.
To me, no. Ovechkin is a generational goalscorer but not player. I see it like this- For a player to be generational you have to be able to make a, credible, case that he would be the best player in any given era- transcending generations. Crosby I view as a, very/if at all, slightly improved Mikita and I never saw any label him as generational around here.
I’ve always thought of it as players who could be considered the best player nearly every year of their career. Someone like Crosby has been in the running every year since he was rookie. If we look at generations of about 10-15 years, I would say Crosby has been one of a kind for that long. Orr, Lemieux, Gretzky, Howe, Crosby. I also think some positional exceptions could be made for Lidstrom and Hasek.
All of those players have something in common. They came into the league and added something to it. They brought something elite, and in Crosby’s case, at a very young age. They changed the game while they played, in some way. They didn’t just have elite careers, they are all the measuring stick for their generations.
He didn't get nominated for one Hart Trophy or win one Pearson award. I don't get how someone can be labelled generational when neither the writers who follow the sport collectively think he's a top 3 player or their peers recognize them as the best player in the league for any given season. Lidstrom is an all-time great and an elite career with exceptional longevity, but he wasn't generational. I don't think at any point during his career, if you could take any single player in the league to build around it would be Lidstrom. He was always overshadowed by guys such as Hasek, Fedorov (early on), Jagr, Lindros, Forsberg, Crosby, and Ovechkin in that discussion. In Lidstrom's career, Lidstrom got a grand total of 4 first place Hart votes, spread over 3 different seasons.
I'd also say he's behind Orr and Harvey at a minimum. Also most likely behind Shore and Bourque. Then you can start really debating.
Generational to me (and I think it's intended meaning), is that a player is by far the best of their generation or expected to be. It is easily reflected through awards and status league-wide. I don't think it's positional. The only clearly generational defender post-O6 is Orr. For example, the clear-cut generational guys in sports right now are Lebron and Mike Trout. I don't think anyone would dispute those 2 have been the best players in their sport without any debate for a significant time. Now, you get Messi/Ronaldo, Brady/Manning, and Magic/Bird situations where two guys are just dominating their peers to a level that they both have to be considered as such, which is where Crosby and Ovi probably fall into (although, not as clear-cut as those prior examples).
Played in the Swedish national team in soccer during the 90s.
Agreed, leaving Mike Bossy off that list is awful.Hilarious how you don't mention arguably greatest goalscorer of all-time.
literally the same i've heard about Ekblad in his rookie year.As much as it pains me to say, Dahlin is a generational defensemen. 18 and already a #1 D in the league, perhaps already a top 10 D. In 2 or 3 years he is going to be a monster and as a fan of a team in the Atlantic he terrifies me.
Easily the Calder will be his and he will win many more trophies and sadly.. probably a cup or two.
The OP stated he might already be a top 10 d? Come on. This is getting absurd. Hes clearly the greatest defenseman ever, in any sport.