Dahlin is generational.

Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by Kamiccolo, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:13 PM.

  1. Randall Flagg

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    Risto was outstanding last night, but I question your hockey analysis if on balance you think he is the best defenseman on the Sabres. Last night's game was his best one since probably the fall of 2016. 97% of the time he's brain-fart central, with an aversion to sound defensive zone positioning and transitioning with possession.
     
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    Neither should Crosby or McDavid(yet atleast) be.

    Orr, Howe, Lemieux, Gretzky and arguably Hasek- That's all. FWIW I would probably have Gretzky in his own Giga Generational tier but that might just be me.

    Ovechkin for example is a generational goalscorer but not player, Crosby? Idk maybe generational consistency but he simply lacks the peak and domination.
     
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    Can we just let the "generational" gollums have their precious generational tags so there isn't a thread for everyone who posts 6 assists in 6 GP?

    Braydon Point. Generational.

    Adin Hill. ****ing generational.
     
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    I'll defer to your judgement on this.

    I don't know why I got so involved in this Sabres discussion. Earned myself some warning points. Lost my shot at the Lady Bing trophy.

    Sorry Sabres Fans. Hope you're well, Flagg. Looking forward to a QEW series.

    -Yuri
     
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    Generational doesn't/shouldn't mean best of your era. To be generational you need to DOMINATE at your position for the 10 best years of your career - singular talent.

    Too early to be calling McDavid generational come back in 10 years and maybe he or Matthews or Dahlin or whoever meet the criteria for generational status.
     
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    Do I know you, Yuri, Sabres fan of old?
     
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    Yuri, fan of Ghost. If you're the same Flagg, that'll make sense. I've followed Marner to the Leafs, but still appreciate a good Ristolainen. If it's you, say hello to the boys for me. I miss 'em.
     
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    Chabot > Dahlin.

    So no, he's not generational.
     
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    He's on pace to have an almost identical point total as Aaron Ekblad had as an 18-year-old....
     
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    Aaron Ekblad actually had a great first year though. He is also on pace to have the same points as Orr pretty much just saying. That said I don't believe he is generational but bringing up that he might have the same pts in his first year as a Calder winner is no slight.
     
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    Unless that Calder winner is Tyler Myers. ;) I kid.

    I'm done here, Sabres Fans. Very Sorry.
     
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    Bruh
     
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    You too, I can't believe you're a LEAFS fan haha.
     
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    My love for Marner, and dislike for Pegula got the best of me.

    It's not forever. These things change. Just not this season, 'cause Marner and the Leafs are so fricking fun.

    New owner, whatever, and I'll drop those Leafs like a bad habit. All except Marner. Anna loves him something indecent.
     
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    Hahaha this is so great. Good to see you buddy, take care. No offense, but I hope the Leafs bring you nothing but pain and suffering :)

    And SS misses you and regularly hopes that any zany new member is you in disguise
     
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    Who here loves Mogilny?

    I'm through with criticizing the Sabres! Brother Flagg has shown me the Light!
    Looking forward to a QEW series, old school. Make it happen, Dahli!
     
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    Didn't mean it as a slight. I was just pointing out that his situation isn't THAT uncommon (unless you believe Ekblad is also generational)

    And yeah he may be putting up the same numbers Orr did in his rookie season, but Orr did it in less games (assuming Dhalin keeps this pace for a full season) and it was, at the time, the best season by a rookie d-man the league had ever seen so :D
     
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    We have like 20 new generational playera over last 5 yrs.
     
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    Dahlin is going to go on a scoring spree now, and prove all you doubters wrong.

    You'll just have to be patient, wait, and see. Then, and only then, after he drags these Sabres into the playoffs, only to be dispatched nobly by the Mighty Toronto Maple Leafs, will you be able to tell me if Dahlin is generational.

    Viva, Dahli! Vamos! Kor!
     
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    Chabot turns 22 in like 2 months.

    Dahlin is what, 12?
     
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    he wont win any cups.
     
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    Pretty low standards for generational players these days... McDavid was a top 3 player in NHL in his rookie season with constant displays of skill no one else has. Dahlin? He's good for his age.
     
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    Heiskanen is also playing his rookie season and has almost the same amount of points as Dahlin. Apparently he isn't too shabby defensively either. They play around the same minutes. Heiskanen confirmed generational!?

    :sarcasm:
     
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    Also a full year older. It's very rare for an 18yo defenseman to have as much success as Dahlin is. It's less uncommon to see that from 19yo ones.

    Only 2 18-year-old D in the history of the NHL have scored 41 points (Orr and Housley), as Dahlin is currently pacing to do. Only 6 have reached at least 30, and no one after that bested 25. Dahlin is already 17th all-time in scoring by an 18-year-old defenseman.
    To compare: 13 19-year-old D have scored at least 40 points; 22 have topped 35 points (what Heiskanen is currently pacing for); 31 at least 30, and 5 more fell just 1 point shy of that.

    Heiskanen's gonna be awesome, but Dahlin looks a cut above.
     

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