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[Eisen]

Anyone watches the women's street race? What a tactical failure by the peloton. It's like they don't want to win medals.

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[Incubajerks]

Anyone watches the women's street race? What a tactical failure by the peloton. It's like they don't want to win medals.

Watched plenty, silver winner thought she won gold once she arrived. Enough said....

 

[Uberpecker]

Definition of tour de force by the Austrian.

 

[Eisen]

Watched plenty, silver winner thought she won gold once she arrived. Enough said....

No, right?

 

[Incubajerks]

No, right?

The Austrian won, when after almost two minutes the Dutchman arrived she thought she had won, basically he was unaware that he still had the Austrian in front.

 

[Eisen]

The Austrian won, when after almost two minutes the Dutchman arrived she thought she had won, basically he was unaware that he still had the Austrian in front.

The hell? I know that radio is not allowed at the Olympics but you'd think that they are aware of a handful of cyclists. There were not that many. And everyone in the team forgetting. Well deserved lost gold.

 

[Uberpecker]

The Austrian won, when after almost two minutes the Dutchman arrived she thought she had won, basically he was unaware that he still had the Austrian in front.

Kiesenhofer is a mathematician and a scientist in her day job. Wouldn't be surprised if she deliberately dialed it up that way.

 

[Eisen]

Kiesenhofer is a mathematician and a scientist in her day job. Wouldn't be surprised if she deliberately dialed it up that way.

You mean she calculated that the peloton can't count to three?

 

[Uberpecker]

You mean she calculated that the peloton can't count to three?

Something like that, yeah.

Seriously though, she's a time trial specialist, so she might have recognized the early attack strategy as her once in a lifetime chance.

 

[Fighter]

Anyone watches the women's street race? What a tactical failure by the peloton. It's like they don't want to win medals.

Tactical failure by the Dutch super team, you mean: they wanted so much the gold, silver and bronze (and they were easily capable of that) that no one wanted to sacrifice for the team. But hey, at least Van Vleuten got a silver (thinking it was gold).

 

[Eisen]

Something like that, yeah.

Seriously though, she's a time trial specialist, so she might have recognized the early attack strategy as her once in a lifetime chance.

Sure. Don't get me wrong. She won fair and square but the field let her get 10 minutes ahead and then forgot about her. As much as it's her win, it's a fumble by the field, especially the Dutch team. Still, good for her.

 

[Eisen]

Tactical failure by the Dutch super team, you mean: they wanted so much the gold, silver and bronze (and they were easily capable of that) that no one wanted to sacrifice for the team. But hey, at least Van Vleuten got a silver (thinking it was gold).

By every team, really, especially the Dutch, though. Nothing speaks against letting others get 2 or 3 minutes ahead, but ten? That's mailing it in.

 

[Incubajerks]

Kiesenhofer is a mathematician and a scientist in her day job. Wouldn't be surprised if she deliberately dialed it up that way.

I was watching italian television (Rai iirc) and they said the same thing!

 

[Fighter]

By every team, really, especially the Dutch, though. Nothing speaks against letting others get 2 or 3 minutes ahead, but ten? That's mailing it in.

No, Dutch team only IMO. There was no reason whatsoever for any other team to help the dutch because they usually are so superior to anybody else, why help to chase the breakaway when you know that any of the dutch can and will beat you? Not helping them in the chase allowed Elisa Longo Borghini to win her second olympic bronze in a row.

TT: Ganna anyone? WVA is in an incredible shape though, I wouldn't be that surprised if Van Aert wins it. Also curious to see if Roglic can do something after that crash in the TDF, his performance in the first race was subpar to say the least.

 

[Eisen]

No, Dutch team only IMO. There was no reason whatsoever for any other team to help the dutch because they usually are so superior to anybody else, why help to chase the breakaway when you know that any of the dutch can and will beat you? Not helping them in the chase allowed Elisa Longo Borghini to win her second olympic bronze in a row.

TT: Ganna anyone? WVA is in an incredible shape though, I wouldn't be that surprised if Van Aert wins it. Also curious to see if Roglic can do something after that crash in the TDF, his performance in the first race was subpar to say the least.

I sort of expect everyone starting to go for a medal. Yeah, the Dutch ar the strongest team and most of the blame lies with them but this race seemed like everyone was satisfied with the rank. Especially when it became clear that they are far away.

 

[Habsfunk]

The men's mountain bike race is on soon. Mathieu Van Der Poel goes for gold after dropping out of the Tour de France. Thomas Pidcock is possibly his biggest competition, but other candidates for gold are Mathias Flueckiger and the legend, Nino Schurter. I would say Jordan Sarrou and Henrique Avancini are darkhorses.

 

[Tryamkin]

Anyone watches the women's street race? What a tactical failure by the peloton. It's like they don't want to win medals.

It wasn’t a tactical failure, they just had no clue the Austrian rider escaped. Would have been super entertaining to see them chase her down if they had known.

 

[Eisen]

The men's mountain bike race is on soon. Mathieu Van Der Poel goes for gold after dropping out of the Tour de France. Thomas Pidcock is possibly his biggest competition, but other candidates for gold are Mathias Flueckiger and the legend, Nino Schurter. I would say Jordan Sarrou and Henrique Avancini are darkhorses.

Van der Poel fell early in the race and is a minute back.

 

[Eisen]

It wasn’t a tactical failure, they just had no clue the Austrian rider escaped. Would have been super entertaining to see them chase her down if they had known.

At this point I didn't know that they didn't know. I mean, there were only three in the leading group. I expect them to know that and I expect them to know the strengths of their competition.

 

[Tryamkin]

At this point I didn't know that they didn't know. I mean, there were only three in the leading group. I expect them to know that and I expect them to know the strengths of their competition.

For sure, I just think it was funny that they didn’t recognize that 3 broke away and they only caught 2. They often talk a lot about how much strategy is involved and how often these riders are thinking about every move and calculating while riding. Maybe we give them a little too much credit!

 

[Fighter]

Van der Poel fell early in the race and is a minute back.

Imagine leaving the TDF to prepare for a unique race and you don't know they will remove a ramp before that race... Ouch MVDP, glad I didn't bet a mortgage on your gold...

 

[Eisen]

Imagine leaving the TDF to prepare for a unique race and you don't know they will remove a ramp before that race... Ouch MVDP, glad I didn't bet a mortgage on your gold...

Yeah, that one has to sting badly. Not to mention, the fall didn't look nice either. Took some time to shake off. He still has a shot next time, he's just entering the best cycling age.
Edit: i just read that he's disgruntled with the organisation about it. Weren't they told that the ramp was removed? Either way, he was the only one that fell.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

Yeah, that one has to sting badly. Not to mention, the fall didn't look nice either. Took some time to shake off. He still has a shot next time, he's just entering the best cycling age.
Edit: i just read that he's disgruntled with the organisation about it. Weren't they told that the ramp was removed? Either way, he was the only one that fell.

Yes but if you watch the clip the second guy who looks to be his team mate Milan Vader also just about bites it.

The technique is different from the 2 dutch to everyone else. It looks like both Vader and MvdP meant to catch and pump the end of the ramp thats no longer there.

My assumption is there was a comms screw up somewhere on the dutch team.

But I am super confused as to why you would have a feature on the trail that wont be in the race.

Think Ive seen enough mtb races in my time and I cant ever recall it.

 

[Eisen]

Yes but if you watch the clip the second guy who looks to be his team mate Milan Vader also just about bites it.

The technique is different from the 2 dutch to everyone else. It looks like both Vader and MvdP meant to catch and pump the end of the ramp thats no longer there.

My assumption is there was a comma screw up somewhere on the dutch team.

But I am super confused as to why you would have a feature on the trail that wont be in the race.

Think Ive seen enough mtb races in my time and I cant ever recall it.

That's strange indeed.

 

[Beech]

here is what I cannot figure out. They do not allow radios, but allow team cars. Do these cars not have any radios or other electronic devises??? so the guys in the car did not know a break away rider was up the road?

The Austrian had been out at the front for a good 50 km...That is a solid 1 1/2 of racing. The individual nations could not have gotten word to their riders by driving close and rolling down a window and giving them tactical info...like: Get going their is a lone rider up ahead, she is 5 minutes up the rode. They gave them water bottles. Were they not allowed to say anything???

Do you really need a radio to convey info like that.